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re: Lets face the facts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 5:04 pm to SouthMSReb
Posted on 2/10/16 at 5:04 pm to SouthMSReb
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This is a serious question; no troll. Was LSU recruiting good before Saban? As in top 10 every year?
Oddly enough, even Curley Hallman recruited well.
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:13 pm to TheCosbySweater
Lets see Bama is winning at a clip unheard of before but because you are butthurt as an Ole Miss fan and not being considered something you are not
"Big6" now every other SEC team's accomplishments dont matter? Hmmm?
Well, LSU last won an SEC Title in 2011. Prior to that LSU won in 2007, 2003, 2001. LSU played in 3 NC Title games in 2003, 2007, and 2011 and won 2 NCs.
So now according to an Ole Miss fan LSU's 5 SEC West Titles since 2001; 4 SEC Titles since 2001; 3 NC game appearances since 2003; and 2 National Championships in 2003 and 2007 don't matter? Why would that be? Because Ole Miss hasn't done crap since 1963 that's why.
I suppose Tennessee's NC in 1998; Auburn's NC; Florida's NCs now don't matter either and their SEC Titles now don't matter because according to you only Bama is living up to "Big6" status.
Well if Ole Miss is equal to the Big6 of the SEC where is the trophy case to prove it? Like I said 1963 is the last time Ole Miss won the SEC but now these delusional Black Bears are trying to rewrite history to make themselves feel better.
Well, thanks but no thanks. Go win something and then give it back because the titles you say don't matter don't belong to your school. Ole Miss is a flash in the pan and still hasn't won anything to begin with. The thing in this conversation thst is irrelevant is Ole Miss.
"Big6" now every other SEC team's accomplishments dont matter? Hmmm?
Well, LSU last won an SEC Title in 2011. Prior to that LSU won in 2007, 2003, 2001. LSU played in 3 NC Title games in 2003, 2007, and 2011 and won 2 NCs.
So now according to an Ole Miss fan LSU's 5 SEC West Titles since 2001; 4 SEC Titles since 2001; 3 NC game appearances since 2003; and 2 National Championships in 2003 and 2007 don't matter? Why would that be? Because Ole Miss hasn't done crap since 1963 that's why.
I suppose Tennessee's NC in 1998; Auburn's NC; Florida's NCs now don't matter either and their SEC Titles now don't matter because according to you only Bama is living up to "Big6" status.
Well if Ole Miss is equal to the Big6 of the SEC where is the trophy case to prove it? Like I said 1963 is the last time Ole Miss won the SEC but now these delusional Black Bears are trying to rewrite history to make themselves feel better.
Well, thanks but no thanks. Go win something and then give it back because the titles you say don't matter don't belong to your school. Ole Miss is a flash in the pan and still hasn't won anything to begin with. The thing in this conversation thst is irrelevant is Ole Miss.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:18 pm to STRIPES
You mad, bro? I didn't undermine any of the team's accomplishments at all? I just said there is a very equal playing field now with the money coming in. Arkansas and ole miss facilities are great and A&M's are probably the best in the country. Everyone in the league plays on tv and it felt like ole miss was in the prime time slot a lot this year. I am sorry if that offends you, but it's just the truth. Your program is great since 2000 but everyone is getting very good and besides Alabama... No one has really stood out. I'm sorry, bud.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:23 pm to Saskwatch
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Yall will finish behind us in the West next year again.
Bro, you had better hope Yall are playing ball next year!!!
Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:27 pm to TheCosbySweater
I'm not mad bro. I am telling you the truth. The truth doesn't mean anyone is mad. I am just tired of you and your lame attempt to portray Ole Miss as more than it has been for 50 years. Then you attempt to minimize the accomplishments every other of the SEC "Big6" has achieved to suit your bogus agenda. I am simply pointing out facts bro.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:32 pm to STRIPES
That fact that ole miss dismantled you this year? Arkansas has beaten you twice in a row? What facts are you talking about? Your insecurity is disgusting. I just stated that Alabama is the only one living up to the hype and showing results. Can you dispute that? If anything, your squad is probably the main example of everyone catching up with everyone. You are struggling with beating teams in the bottom 8. So, I don't know why you are mad, but you can take it out on your wife or kids. Missouri has been to the championship game TWICE and in the division with 3 of the big 6. I'm sorry, man. The league is getting tougher.
And for the record, I never said Ole Miss was the "Big 6", you did. The league is tuning into the "big 13" and it's pretty hard to not see that.
And for the record, I never said Ole Miss was the "Big 6", you did. The league is tuning into the "big 13" and it's pretty hard to not see that.
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:41 am to TheCosbySweater
Dude, Ole Miss has been irrellevant for decades and winningva game or 2 over LSU and Bama while losing to Memphis doesn't all of a sudden put Ole Miss in the category of teams which have been winning SEC titles and National Titles. It simply doesn't. I understand that the small amount of success Ole Miss has had in the last 2 or 3 years is new to Ole Miss but it is not "Big 6" level ot even close. Believe what you want but the "Big 13"??? Seriously?? LOL!!!
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:45 am to STRIPES
You continue to bring up history, man. I am not even trolling and it's hard to defend that every team in the west can be a contender and that your tigers are struggling. How is that hard to grasp? If you can say ole miss and Arkansas aren't relevant, then you are insecure and very homerish about your squad.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:02 pm to Kilgore Trout
quote:His first mistake was keeping a loaner car for 6 months. His second mistake was not being truthful with the NCAA investigators.
Tunsil's first mistake was defending his mom against an abusive stepdad. Few middle-aged men are going to come out on top against a 6-5 305 athlete, so stepdad's only recourse was to spill the beans. "That'll teach that boy to kick my arse." The second mistake was lack of full cooperation on Tunsil's part after the investigation started.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:23 pm to Lionnation1993
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When any of the Non Big 6 schools start recruiting at a Big 6 school level, red flags go up.
This isn't true, red flags go up when you out recruit your success on the field. If any of the "non 6 big schools" has a stretch of successful seasons, it would not be odd for their recruiting to go up. Ole Miss only looks odd because of 2013 class when they didn't have much success before this year.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:30 pm to TheCosbySweater
You aren't bringing up history because you have none. Ole Miss wanting to forget the history of its' football program is equivalent to a 1-legged man giving up the 100 yard dash.
The topic of "Big6" is based on history of the programs. The history of Ole Miss simply does not put Ole Miss at that level or even close.
Regarding LSU "struggling" that is complete nonsense. Ole Miss has a whole 1 game win streak against LSU and now you sit here talking bullshite trying to make Ole Miss out to be more than it has been for 40 to 50 years. I guarantee you that Ole Miss can only hope to ever struggle as LSU has for the last 15-20 years. You are laughable.
In addition, consider the only reason Ole Miss has had any success is because you Pine Cone eating fools are cheating your asses off. That was the point of this thread to begin with.
Congrats on the Ole Miss 1 game win streak. We will fix that for you this year. Until then continue your delusion.
The topic of "Big6" is based on history of the programs. The history of Ole Miss simply does not put Ole Miss at that level or even close.
Regarding LSU "struggling" that is complete nonsense. Ole Miss has a whole 1 game win streak against LSU and now you sit here talking bullshite trying to make Ole Miss out to be more than it has been for 40 to 50 years. I guarantee you that Ole Miss can only hope to ever struggle as LSU has for the last 15-20 years. You are laughable.
In addition, consider the only reason Ole Miss has had any success is because you Pine Cone eating fools are cheating your asses off. That was the point of this thread to begin with.
Congrats on the Ole Miss 1 game win streak. We will fix that for you this year. Until then continue your delusion.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:37 pm to rockiee
You are incorrect.
When a school has had difficulty
recruiting in-state and has NEVER been in on national recruits outside of its' state boundaries and then all of a sudden is a major player nationwide for 5 star recruits several years in a row then it is very questionable even with some on fieíd success. Consider that Ole Miss still hasn't ever been to Atlanta nor won the SEC West but is all of a sudden appealing to recruits? Why?
When a school has had difficulty
recruiting in-state and has NEVER been in on national recruits outside of its' state boundaries and then all of a sudden is a major player nationwide for 5 star recruits several years in a row then it is very questionable even with some on fieíd success. Consider that Ole Miss still hasn't ever been to Atlanta nor won the SEC West but is all of a sudden appealing to recruits? Why?
Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:38 pm to STRIPES
Ole Miss is a bunch of shite heads frick those little pussies
Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:41 pm to STRIPES
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When a school has had difficulty
recruiting in-state and has NEVER been in on national recruits outside of its' state boundaries and then all of a sudden is a major player nationwide for 5 star recruits several years in a row then it is very questionable even with some on fieíd success. Consider that Ole Miss still hasn't ever been to Atlanta nor won the SEC West but is all of a sudden appealing to recruits? Why?
You just enforced my statement. Everything you said supports my points. Ole Miss has not had a "stretch of successful seasons"
The op was stating that any school in the non big 6 should never be able to recruit with the other big 6 schools unless they are cheating.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 2/11/16 at 1:50 pm to rockiee
No. I understand what we are saying is similar. However, I guess I'm taking it a little farther.
Ole Miss has had some success on the field but it still is odd that National recruits are even visiting Ole Miss much less going there.
The school is located in a small rural town in North Mississippi yet recruits from all over the USA are coming in to Oxford. Regardless of any success on the field since when has Oxford, Mississippi been such an attraction to recruits from Florida, Georgia, Texas, Arizona, etc.?
Success or not this can't be explained. Then when you factor in the fact that Hugh Freeze came from Arkansas State yet immediately began recruiting at the Saban and Miles level it has to draw attention to the situation. The fact that Ole Miss is even having success to begin with is a question.
Ole Miss has had some success on the field but it still is odd that National recruits are even visiting Ole Miss much less going there.
The school is located in a small rural town in North Mississippi yet recruits from all over the USA are coming in to Oxford. Regardless of any success on the field since when has Oxford, Mississippi been such an attraction to recruits from Florida, Georgia, Texas, Arizona, etc.?
Success or not this can't be explained. Then when you factor in the fact that Hugh Freeze came from Arkansas State yet immediately began recruiting at the Saban and Miles level it has to draw attention to the situation. The fact that Ole Miss is even having success to begin with is a question.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 1:59 pm to STRIPES
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Ole Miss has had some success on the field but it still is odd that National recruits are even visiting Ole Miss much less going there.
The school is located in a small rural town in North Mississippi yet recruits from all over the USA are coming in to Oxford. Regardless of any success on the field since when has Oxford, Mississippi been such an attraction to recruits from Florida, Georgia, Texas, Arizona, etc.?
Success or not this can't be explained. Then when you factor in the fact that Hugh Freeze came from Arkansas State yet immediately began recruiting at the Saban and Miles level it has to draw attention to the situation. The fact that Ole Miss is even having success to begin with is a question.
I guess that is where we disagree. I think one of the non 6 schools can attract players from all over the country with the right amount of success but as I stated before I don't believe that Ole Miss fits that criteria so their recruiting has been odd. It is not going to be easy for any of the schools to reach the level of success to attract the high level players every single year.
Some coaches simply never will because of how they recruit. I don't see Bert ever having a top 10 class no matter how much success he gains. The same applies to Dan Mullen and a few other coaches. Not saying that Bert would turn down 5 stars that were interested but he doesn't mind going after players he believes in but are not highly rated.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 2:00 pm to Lionnation1993
I would give some of the credit to Hugh Freeze as a recruiter and a coach though....
After the dumpster fire he took over from Houston Nuttless, he deserves at least some kudos...
After the dumpster fire he took over from Houston Nuttless, he deserves at least some kudos...
Posted on 2/11/16 at 2:04 pm to DawgGone
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Bro, you had better hope Yall are playing ball next year!!!
We good. What are yall gonna without Dak? Are yall gonna even field a team baw? Wishbone/Option offense?
Posted on 2/11/16 at 2:09 pm to Lionnation1993
Suck that Big 6 dick you little 8 bitches
Posted on 2/11/16 at 2:20 pm to STRIPES
I just don't understand why you even came at me like that. Ole miss player in like 5 prime time games this. I am downplaying how good the big 6 has been historically. But things change and they changed for y'all in 2000. Look at Oregon... Do they even have black people in the northwest? They came out if nowhere with Joey Heisman. Ole miss' facilities are great. Let's face it, Oxford is better than BR.
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