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re: Les Miles was 3-7 against Nick Saban
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:10 pm to Ancient Astronaut
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:10 pm to Ancient Astronaut
quote:That game was just the final straw.
You sure it wasn't because he lost to Auburn and started 2-2 with one of his most talented teams?
From CBS... LINK
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Les Miles lost his job because he refused to evolve like Nick Saban
The downfall for Les Miles was undoubtedly self-inflicted. No matter how likable he was, how many games he won in the past or how often he ate grass, Miles stubbornly refused to evolve on offense.
In a way, Miles became the latest and most prominent victim of Nick Saban. They were always compared to each other given Saban's past at LSU. Miles and Saban became the SEC's version of Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes, except Saban changed his offense to adapt to the times and Miles was forever stuck in the past.
The Sabanization of the SEC is now entirely complete.
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While Miles' program gradually declined in recent years, the truth is LSU was never the same since Alabama's 21-0 win over LSU at the 2012 BCS Championship Game following the 2011 season. It's easy to forget just how good LSU was in 2011 and how different offense was at the time.
That LSU team was poised to be remembered as one of the all-time greats. The Tigers went 13-0 and beat eight ranked teams, including three in the top five (Oregon, Alabama and Arkansas). The roster was loaded with 19 future NFL draft picks, guys like Tyrann Mathieu, Morris Claiborne, Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry and Michael Brockers.
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Miles decided he didn't need to change. He believed handing the ball off to Leonard Fournette in an outdated offense was the best option, even though it wasted Fournette's talent without a real passing threat to keep defenses honest.
Miles elected to continue to be Schembechler, his old coach and mentor at Michigan, and keep coaching his "damn strong football team." Saban realized being Hayes doesn't work this century, and he's now No. 1 with a dual-threat, true freshman quarterback.
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Saban changed. Miles didn't, and it cost him his job.
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:10 pm to UncleBlazer
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Not even close. I'm sick of hearing about LSU's talent. Both oline and dline are soft as charmin and got dominated by both Wisky and Auburn. Their WRs can't catch. Their punter can't punt. Their QB is below average.
They have some good DB's who will be NFLers, Fournette, Guice, and Dural. That's their talent.
All of this.
The talent on this team is overrated. LSU once had a huge talent advantage and they were able to overcome Miles incompetence. Those days are long gone.
2005, 2006, 2007, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 were all more talented LSU teams than this one. They have some DBs and a RB. The overall team talent is mid level SEC.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:12 pm to RollTide1987
Not everything is about you..
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:13 pm to RollTide1987
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Only because it doesn't fit your data
Not sure what that means.
Anyway, it was never the point that Bama has a great history. No shite.
The thing that was being debated was the uninformed idea that LSU had no high level football history without the coach you lucked into ten years ago.
If you fall into THAT camp, you are uninformed and just plain stupid.
If not, we just have some sort of misunderstanding.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:14 pm to lsupride87
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LSU was a consensus top 10-15 program all time before 2000 and Saban
There's still a big gap between LSU and the elite programs in CFB history.
Alabama
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
USC
Texas
Ohio State
Michigan
Those are the elite of the elites. LSU is a tier two program at best. You can multiply the number of SEC championships LSU has won over the years by two and it still won't equal the number Alabama has.
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:15 pm to BhamDore
So the recruiting sites are only wrong about the LSU talent, but spot on for everyone else.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:15 pm to TT9
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Lsu is a mediocre program compared to the Machine, go tuck on Georgia's cape.
This is a dumb son of a whore
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:16 pm to bgtiger
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LSU had no high level football history
Well that's subjective, isn't it? What's your definition of "high level"? It's one thing to say you are a Top 15 program in college football history, but just how many teams have sustained relevant success since 1869?
There is a huge gap between #5 and #10 in the rankings. I can guarantee you that.
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:18 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Yeh no shite. Jesus Christ y'all are the most insecure fanbase on the planet
multiply the number of SEC championships LSU has won over the years by two and it still won't equal the number Alabama has.
I only responded because someone said, which is something I see Bama fans lost a lot, that LSU was mediocre and covered in shot before 2000. That simply is factually false
You even admit it
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:18 pm to RollTide1987
ND and Michigan are better all time than Bama.
Ohio state is better because they beat your arse last
Ohio state is better because they beat your arse last
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:19 pm to RollTide1987
At one point, Les was 3-2 against Saban, but more importantly, 5-2 against Bama.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:19 pm to bgtiger
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ND and Michigan are better all time than Bama.
How so? Alabama has more on field victories than Notre Dame does. Michigan has more wins but lack national championships in the poll era. Since the AP poll began keeping track in 1936, they've won 2 national championships (1948 and 1997).
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:20 pm to bgtiger
Kiss the rings bitch
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:20 pm to RollTide1987
Alabama also holds the record for most years on the NCAA repeat offenenders list at 16+
You are fricking bent, and I can't even figure out why. Lol
You are fricking bent, and I can't even figure out why. Lol
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:20 pm to RollTide1987
Ok Michigan is the best
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:21 pm to RollTide1987
No, no.... Can't start picking years.
ALL TIME MAN, ALL TIME!!!
ALL TIME MAN, ALL TIME!!!
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:23 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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with one of his most talented teams
We hear this every year.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:24 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Monster gap
There's still a big gap between LSU and the elite programs in CFB history.
Alabama
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
USC
Texas
Ohio State
Michigan
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:24 pm to TT9
Like your moms
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:24 pm to bgtiger
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Alabama also holds the record for most years on the NCAA repeat offenenders list at 16+
Well when you're the best at everything...
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