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re: Les Miles and LSU has a "Phil Fulmer" feeling to it

Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:43 am to
Posted by DoreonthePlains
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:43 am to
I know it's not college or SEC, but look at Andy Reid. Say what you want about a disparity in talent between the Eagles and Chiefs, but sometimes it just takes a change of scenery to be a breath of fresh air. It may work in marriage when that old married couple gets into their safe, happy routine, but in the world of college football, that routine gets you passed by while other programs evolve.
Posted by BayouBengal99
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:48 am to
y'all wish...... Tenn will never be LSU! LSU isn't going anywhere folks regardless if we have Les or the next great coach to come thru! Saban and Les had proved LSU to be one of the premier places to coach, lots of dough and great recruits year in and out within the State. Tenn doesn't have that, also THE fact that we have no instate rival to compete with...... LSU will always be a desirable place for a coach to become a legend. Sorry but LSU is here to stay!!! Bummer for some but not me
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:00 am to
If Les Miles becomes Fulmer, can we at least have Jr. and his wife convert to LSU fans? I love that beautiful couple.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:02 am to
I love it. After 9 years and winning 80% of his games, Miles still has opposing fans fantasizing about an eventual downfall.

It probably will happen at some point (it happens to everyone), at which point, critics will say, "I told you so! I knew Miles would eventually fail!!!"



I have never seen a coach win 80% of his games over 9 years in the SEC, win 3 division championships, have 4 top 5 finishes, win 2 SEC titles, win 1 national championship and play for another and reel in consistent top 10 recruiting classes and be called a horrible coach by almost everyone.

If Les Miles is horrible, then I hope LSU has horrible coaches just like him for the rest of my life.

Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:15 am to
I find it odd too
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:17 am to
LSU will always attract the best coaches..... It's going to come down to timing and I believe Les will win one more championship and leave on his own so I really believe he won't have a downfall at all. Recruiting looks strong next year and very good possibility even stronger than this year? We have another ship coming in 2015, 16, or 17 mayb 2 of those depending on certain things. Our D is being built again and we now have a slew of QBs with more coming, Dline and Oline needs to stay strong and we keep QB depth. If LSU can do that then we will always be in contention. LSU isn't going anywhere period. We going to make the SEC for a long time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:25 am to
People have been saying Larry Coker/Phil Fulmer in regards to Les Miles for years, and the Tigers still churn out 9-11 wins a year.

You'll see these threads and more of the idiotic "decline" threads every year until Miles is gone, and he'll still be churning out very good football teams.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:35 am to
Who is Matt Wyatt and why should I give a flying frick what he says?
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:21 am to


I gotta hand it to you, 8/10
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
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77774 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:28 am to
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Well that would just be a silly thing for them to claim. Ole Miss is a fine school, but the only school in the SEC with a claim to that is Vanderbilt.


actually Tulane is considered the "Harvard of the South"

ETA: i know they're not in the SEC
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 7:31 am
Posted by daBIGKAHUNA
Charlotte NC
Member since Nov 2013
82 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:44 am to
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Nice... 27-24


Why are Ole Miss fans obsessed with LSU? That is what I find funny. OM plays LSU every year as if it's their version of the NC and LSU finds it hard to even get motivated for the game due to the opponent.

As for a decline - at least LSU has ascended to a point at which a decline is even a possibility. Work on making it to the SECCG
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30583 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:59 am to
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y'all wish...... Tenn will never be LSU! LSU isn't going anywhere folks regardless if we have Les or the next great coach to come thru! Saban and Les had proved LSU to be one of the premier places to coach, lots of dough and great recruits year in and out within the State. Tenn doesn't have that, also THE fact that we have no instate rival to compete with...... LSU will always be a desirable place for a coach to become a legend. Sorry but LSU is here to stay!!! Bummer for some but not me
Sorry, but that's a load of crap. Check to see which SEC team has the 2nd most wins in conference history (behind Alabama). When Tenn. was good, they were Alabama's biggest rival (sorry Auburn), and the only coaching "legend" y'all have ever had was Paul Dietzel. Saban could probably have been, if he'd stayed. Finally, don't look now, but those homegrown guys have begun to look elsewhere (like a cheating wife ) for possibly greener pastures. Another sub-par year and they'll really start to stray....just saying
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:01 am to
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coachcrisp


you get dumber by the day.....which is quite an accomplishment all things considered
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 8:03 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:09 am to
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I have never seen a coach win 80% of his games over 9 years in the SEC, win 3 division championships, have 4 top 5 finishes, win 2 SEC titles, win 1 national championship and play for another and reel in consistent top 10 recruiting classes and be called a horrible coach by almost everyone.


In his first 9 seasons, Fulmer won over 80% of his games, won 3 division championships, had 3 top 5 finishes, won 2 SEC titles and won 1 national championship. He didn't become a horrible coach until around year 12 or 13, when he became complacent.
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 8:20 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:14 am to
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I have never seen a coach win 80% of his games over 9 years in the SEC, win 3 division championships, have 4 top 5 finishes, win 2 SEC titles, win 1 national championship and play for another and reel in consistent top 10 recruiting classes and be called a horrible coach by almost everyone.


Miles is 95-24 after 9 seasons at LSU (79.83%). In his first 9 seasons as head coach at UT, Fulmer was 91-19 (82.72%). So, you are right. Fulmer was actually better than Miles in his first 9 seasons.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:17 am to
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To be fair neither did Fulmer in his first 8 years in Knoxville


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well Miles is on year 10 so....


Fulmer's first losing season at UT was his 13th. This is Miles' 10th season at LSU. Last season (Miles' 9th), LSU finished 10-3 and #14. In his 9th season at UT, Fulmer finished 11-2 and #4.

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30583 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:18 am to
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you get dumber by the day.....which is quite an accomplishment all things considered
That comment coming from you means....nothing.
Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
4913 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:18 am to
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USCe got Clowney.


wtf does this have to with anything. Did we go on a Fulmer like decline while we had Clowney? I know we didn't when a title with him , but he did win 11 every year at SCar and we sure as hell didn't "decline" with him. Dumb comparison is dumb.
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 8:19 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:24 am to
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Fulmer's first losing season at UT was his 13th. This is Miles' 10th season at LSU. Last season (Miles' 9th), LSU finished 10-3 and #14. In his 9th season at UT, Fulmer finished 11-2 and #4.


Sounds more like Bama has a Fulmer feel to it
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:26 am to
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So, you are right. Fulmer was actually better than Miles in his first 9 seasons.


meh....look who Fulmer was coaching against
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