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Les is Phil Fulmer, not Coker
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:28 pm
The Coker comparison is a popular comparison thrown out to Miles. But if you really wanna compare him to someone, I think it's Fat Phil. Heck, he's got Chavis as his DC just like he did.
But you know, just in the sense of finding ways to pull games out of his arse.
Really though, this guy is one of a kind I think.
But you know, just in the sense of finding ways to pull games out of his arse.
Really though, this guy is one of a kind I think.
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Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:30 pm to Papa Purple and Gold
Fulmer was twice the coach that Miles is right now. Fulmer's problem was recruiting. UT had to recruit nationally. Miles has the state that produces the most NFL talent per capita in his back yard. The corridor from Baton Rouge to New Orleans has produced some of the greatest football talent in the nation at all three levels of football.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:31 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Fulmer's problem was recruiting.
Not Rivals/Scout wise, but evaluation wise.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:33 pm to Papa Purple and Gold
That's the comparison I always thought was the best for Miles. He reminds me a lot of Phil Fulmer especially after 1998. But I don't think LSU's decline is going to be quite as bad. Tennessee had several years when they didn't even qualify for a bowl game and were getting their asses kicked by the likes of Maryland when they did qualify for the post season. But they're similar in that their days of having a national championship contender are over.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:33 pm to genuineLSUtiger
I agree, like I said, I think Miles is one of a kind
but he's closer to Fulmer than Coker I think
it's a good thing LSU has great athletes
but he's closer to Fulmer than Coker I think
it's a good thing LSU has great athletes
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:36 pm to Papa Purple and Gold
No, he's Coker in the sense that he's wasting talent and dragging the team down further each year. He's not as bad though. He didn't inherit as good of a team as Coker, and he even if he's ruining what Saban did at LSU, it's not as bad as absolutely destroying the work done in 20 years by Schnellenberger, Johnson, Erickson, and Davis in a 5 year span. Coker was the absolute worst thing to happen to Miami.
This post was edited on 10/2/10 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:37 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Fulmer was twice the coach that Miles is right now.
No, he's not. Fulmer was an awful gameday coach. He was extremely successful because he was able to out-athlete teams in a down SEC. Whenever he faced teams with comparable athletic talent ala Nebraska and Florida, he got his arse kicked. I don't think it was a coincidence that Tennessee went completely down the tubes once the coaching and recruiting around the SEC improved.
This post was edited on 10/2/10 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:38 pm to Bench McElroy
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No, he's not. Fulmer was an awful gameday coach. He was extremely successful because he was able to out-athlete teams in a down SEC. Whenever he faced teams with comparable athletic talent ala Nebraska and Florida, he got his arse kicked. I don't think it was a coincidence that Tennessee went completely down the tubes once the coaching and recruiting around the SEC improved.
100% correct.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:41 pm to Bench McElroy
and I'd say that Gary Crowton is comparable to Randy Sanders at UT
Posted on 10/2/10 at 11:43 pm to Papa Purple and Gold
why do people criticize miles for game management (something all coaches botch at least once) but don't give him credit for
an incredible defense
really good special teams
solid running game
incredible recruiting
he only needs to make less mistakes than the opponent and over the course of 5 seasons, he's done that and won a lot of games.
the offense doesn't have to have great stats. they only need to be good enough to compliment the defense and the special teams.
for whatever flaws he has, at least he's winning. richt can't say that.
an incredible defense
really good special teams
solid running game
incredible recruiting
he only needs to make less mistakes than the opponent and over the course of 5 seasons, he's done that and won a lot of games.
the offense doesn't have to have great stats. they only need to be good enough to compliment the defense and the special teams.
for whatever flaws he has, at least he's winning. richt can't say that.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 11:49 pm to bfniii
He took over a strong program and is in an unreal recruiting base. He's dragging you down further and further each year. Feel free to think it won't get any worse.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 11:51 pm to ohiovol
Posted on 10/2/10 at 11:55 pm to Papa Purple and Gold
from last year..
Posted on 10/2/10 at 11:59 pm to ohiovol
quote:the running game improved since last season. '09 record was better than '08. the defense is better than '08. that's three ways in which your statement is patently false.
He's dragging you down further and further each year
not to mention the fact that recruiting continues to roll on as good as anyone else. i've already mentioned the defense, running game and special teams
why can't anyone else see that when a pass play is called, the players suddenly act like they've never played football before:
line up offsides
drop a pass that hits you in the hands
run the wrong route
fumble
throw when you're past the line of scrimmage
intentional grounding
throw an interception
miss blocking assignment
hold
these are just dumb mental mistakes the players are making.
people just aren't looking at the big picture.
Posted on 10/3/10 at 12:11 am to bfniii
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why can't anyone else see that when a pass play is called, the players suddenly act like they've never played football before:
line up offsides
drop a pass that hits you in the hands
run the wrong route
fumble
throw when you're past the line of scrimmage
intentional grounding
throw an interception
miss blocking assignment
hold
Coaches are responsible for having players focused and ready to execute.
You don't do it for one game (ala the Saints loss vs Falcons) you are allowed to place blame on the players.
If it goes on for multiple years, it's coaching.
Posted on 10/3/10 at 12:15 am to LSUFreek
quote:this response was totally predictable. every football player at every level of competition knows to not do these things. also, this hasn't gone on multiple years. it's been a year and a half. in '08 the offense was good with the exception of lee's dubious record.
Coaches are responsible for having players focused and ready to execute. If it goes on for multiple years, it's coaching.
Posted on 10/3/10 at 12:20 am to bfniii
even if the coaches are the blame for the lack of "focus" in the passing game, why aren't the coaches equally responsible for all the things the team is doing really well? why are fans so upset about one half of one phase of the game? the response isn't proportionate to the problem.
lsu hasn't lost to jax st or ulm at home and isn't 1-4
lsu hasn't lost to jax st or ulm at home and isn't 1-4
Posted on 10/3/10 at 12:22 am to bfniii
I don't see a single resemblance between Fulmer and Miles.
Posted on 10/3/10 at 12:27 am to Monticello
people also are overlooking that despite the confusion, a play got called and the ball got snapped. jefferson wasn't paying attention. that's not a "clock management problem".
Posted on 10/3/10 at 12:35 am to bfniii
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this response was totally predictable. every football player at every level of competition knows to not do these things. also, this hasn't gone on multiple years. it's been a year and a half. in '08 the offense was good with the exception of lee's dubious record.
If you consider stats "good" then you are correct, LSU was "good" in '08.
However, I think of "good" in real football terms:
You know, not fumbling,
not throwing int's,
not committing facemasks on key downs,
not committing PI's,
not roughing the passer,
not having false starts,
not holding on 3rd downs or TD completions,
not taunting after a score,
not throwing pick 6's
not mis-managing the clock
not calling timeouts after a timeout due to a penatly
not calling a long FG against the wind
not encroaching the line
not getting a delay of game on 3rd dwn
All of those have happened repeatedly over '08, '09' and this year.
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