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Lack of a QB or Les Miles
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:26 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:26 am
What is the reason for the sorry passing game for LSU?
When Russell was there in 05-06, I remember the passing game was pretty good. Same in 07.
08-11 it was pretty bad when JJ and the other guy was QB.
12-13 it was pretty good with ZM as the QB.
14-16 it has been awful with the 3 QB that have played.
Unfortunately for LSU fans, I think the lack of a passing game is due to bad QB and not the coach. The QB they have are QB you don't want passing too much because it will result in turnovers.
When Russell was there in 05-06, I remember the passing game was pretty good. Same in 07.
08-11 it was pretty bad when JJ and the other guy was QB.
12-13 it was pretty good with ZM as the QB.
14-16 it has been awful with the 3 QB that have played.
Unfortunately for LSU fans, I think the lack of a passing game is due to bad QB and not the coach. The QB they have are QB you don't want passing too much because it will result in turnovers.
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:27 am to remaster916
Ok
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:27 am to remaster916
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Unfortunately for LSU fans, I think the lack of a passing game is due to bad QB and not the coach.
No shite. Who is responsible for recruiting and developing the QB?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:28 am to remaster916
If you notice, the QBs that have been successful at LSU all have one thing in common, they weren't developed by Les Miles.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:28 am to remaster916
It was great with Jimbo leading Russel.
It was ok with the wizard's 1st year.
Then 2008 pick 6 party happened. Les changed his philosophy to uber conservative, and wouldn't let go the reigns.
Even Mettenberger was just average. 2 1000 yd WR's, but who else got the ball regularly?
It was ok with the wizard's 1st year.
Then 2008 pick 6 party happened. Les changed his philosophy to uber conservative, and wouldn't let go the reigns.
Even Mettenberger was just average. 2 1000 yd WR's, but who else got the ball regularly?
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:29 am to remaster916
Wonderful incite. If only this could have been brought up before we fired our all-star HC.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:32 am to remaster916
Yeah, but they just started watching film this week so they should easily run the table because they are so awesome
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:33 am to remaster916
miles gets conservative unless he has a upperclassman at qb.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:33 am to remaster916
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Lack of a QB and Les Miles
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:36 am to remaster916
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Words that never made us laugh harder coming from you
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:37 am to remaster916
Les Miles = lack of QB
Russell/Flynn were your coach's boys, and developed by Jimbo.
Every High School QB signed by les that started at LSU was boo'd off the field, and loathed by fans:
-Lee
-Jefferson
-Jennings
-Harris
His two transfers Mett and Etling have fared better, having spent time being developed by other college coaching staffs
In the last 3 years alone Saban has made a RB and a freshman far more productive than anyone miles has signed out of HS in his 12 year tenure
Russell/Flynn were your coach's boys, and developed by Jimbo.
Every High School QB signed by les that started at LSU was boo'd off the field, and loathed by fans:
-Lee
-Jefferson
-Jennings
-Harris
His two transfers Mett and Etling have fared better, having spent time being developed by other college coaching staffs
In the last 3 years alone Saban has made a RB and a freshman far more productive than anyone miles has signed out of HS in his 12 year tenure
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 9:43 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:38 am to JesusQuintana
don't you have poop swastika to complain about
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:41 am to remaster916
I really don't think Danny Etling is that bad of a QB. His problem is that he has formed too much of a relationship with Shark. Malachi didn't help his case by dropping balls when they finally were thrown to him. Danny is the type of QB LSU has needed in the past and seems to more fit the mold of Alabama QB/game managers of old. Rely on your defense and RB but a guy who can make plays when needed. It'll be interesting to see how he progresses as time goes on with O as HC.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:53 am to remaster916
Ever since Matt Flynn graduated the passing game has ranked in the low 100s no matter who the offensive coordinator is.
That's entirely Les's fault.
Mett was the exception because he wasn't recruited by Les. At the end of the season some were actually celebrating the fact that we had a 3000 yard passer. And we still didn't play for the SECCG or a BCS bowl.
It's all on Les.
That's entirely Les's fault.
Mett was the exception because he wasn't recruited by Les. At the end of the season some were actually celebrating the fact that we had a 3000 yard passer. And we still didn't play for the SECCG or a BCS bowl.
It's all on Les.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:56 am to remaster916
I think you are very much wrong.
It's coaching.
Cam Cameron is an awful OC. Combine that with Les Miles' stubbornness and you have a 1970's Big 10 offense.
It's coaching.
Cam Cameron is an awful OC. Combine that with Les Miles' stubbornness and you have a 1970's Big 10 offense.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:24 am to remaster916
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What is the reason for the sorry passing game for LSU?
When Russell was there in 05-06, I remember the passing game was pretty good. Same in 07.
Meh, QB development and play wasn't so bad but we had Fisher who was a hold-over from the previous coaching staff.
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08-11 it was pretty bad when JJ and the other guy was QB.
QB development lacking for the most part but a couple of other factors played a hand in this (Ryan Perrilloux and Andrew Hatch)
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12-13 it was pretty good with ZM as the QB.
Transfer QB
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14-16 it has been awful with the 3 QB that have played.
QB development lacking for first two QBs. Etling has better chance and could still get better but remember that he is a transfer QB.
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Unfortunately for LSU fans, I think the lack of a passing game is due to bad QB and not the coach. The QB they have are QB you don't want passing too much because it will result in turnovers.
Do you see a pattern here? Whether it is in recruiting the correct QBs to fit the system or in developing a QB from high school or a combination, the coaches play a large blame in the QB issues since 2005
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:31 am to remaster916
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Lack of a QB or Les Miles
Even if its the former, it's the latter.
He is responsible for the talent coming in.
I've never understood the comment about a coach only being "good" because of the talent. It's as if people that say this think talented players are mixed in with average guys in a big gumball machine and the "good" coach just get's lucky when he turns the crank.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:33 am to Ag Zwin
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I've never understood the comment about a coach only being "good" because of the talent. It's as if people that say this think talented players are mixed in with average guys in a big gumball machine and the "good" coach just get's lucky when he turns the crank.
I think it comes down to if that coach recruited the talent or not.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:38 am to cardboardboxer
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I think it comes down to if that coach recruited the talent or not.
We are saying the same thing, I think. Recruiting good talent is just as much a job skill as the pregame prep and the in-game X's and O's.
A coach is not "good" because he has superior talent. He has superior talent because he is "good". Yes, some programs have advantages in the ability to pull in talent (history, facilities, payroll...), but you can also have all these advantages and still screw it up (Texas, USC, Notre Dame, etc.)
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:20 am to sardog12
I agree. It just seems like some coaches get the really good QB's no matter where or how they are ranked. Dabo got a good one, Bobby Petrino has one. The best two passing QB's or 3 if you count Russell from the state of Alabama all went out of state.
Rivers, Winston and Wilson. None played for AL or AUB.
USC had good QB's while on their run but they got 2 or 3 top 5 star qb's every year to choose from.
May be the hardest position to predict of all. Then you need to develop them. Malzahan is probably just a QB away from contending for the SEC. Tennessee would be shite without Dobbs. Only time Miss. St. is good is when they have a QB. Without Kelly Ole Miss would be just a defense.
Les Miles has made more money than my entire family will during our lifetime. So no reason to feel sad for him.
Rivers, Winston and Wilson. None played for AL or AUB.
USC had good QB's while on their run but they got 2 or 3 top 5 star qb's every year to choose from.
May be the hardest position to predict of all. Then you need to develop them. Malzahan is probably just a QB away from contending for the SEC. Tennessee would be shite without Dobbs. Only time Miss. St. is good is when they have a QB. Without Kelly Ole Miss would be just a defense.
Les Miles has made more money than my entire family will during our lifetime. So no reason to feel sad for him.
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