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re: Kirk Heirbstreit Picks Auburn as SEC West Sleeper pick
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:49 pm to HarrisLetsRide
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:49 pm to HarrisLetsRide
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I'm nervous about our game in Jordan-Hare.
Those are always crazy games
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:49 pm to thirdlawson
He picked LSU last year. How'd that work out?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:53 pm to Lonnie Utah
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How'd that work out?
As a sleeper? Good thing Herbstreit is the only talking head who's made an incorrect prediction!
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:02 pm to thirdlawson
its a sleeper pick. meaning it probably won't happen
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:04 pm to HarrisLetsRide
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Their defense will keep them in some big games
Not flaming Auburn at all, but why do you think that? They weren't even in the top 50 for total defense nor scoring defense. T/0 per game was 1.3. They just really didn't have true playmakers last year - plus they were rather a young'ish team.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:10 pm to DuncanIdaho
He is alright, just going on the theme that when Auburn is consistently picked high they don't come close to expectations and when Auburn is consistently picked low, they don't come close to expectations either. If a gambler followed this strategy the last 6 years, he would be a rich man now.
Also as a previous post pointed out, how can picking 1,5,or 11 be a "sleeper" pick. Frankly, one day the"consensus of experts" will get Auburn's relative position correct based on the law of averages.
They are my pick as well between the four remaining west teams.
Also as a previous post pointed out, how can picking 1,5,or 11 be a "sleeper" pick. Frankly, one day the"consensus of experts" will get Auburn's relative position correct based on the law of averages.
They are my pick as well between the four remaining west teams.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:17 pm to thirdlawson
Herbstreit picked Auburn as his West division sleeper in 2010
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:17 pm to idlewatcher
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Not flaming Auburn at all, but why do you think that?
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They just really didn't have true playmakers last year - plus they were rather a young'ish team
You answered your own question. The best players on defense were young last year. Plus having Lawson back is a big jump. And the linebackers will be much improved. Tre Williams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kris Frost
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:17 pm to NotRight37
Why the outrage? Its a prediction. A sleeper pick in the west would be down to a&m, auburn or arkansas. Can you really say any of the 3 picks are outrageous over the other?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:22 pm to idlewatcher
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Not flaming Auburn at all, but why do you think that? They weren't even in the top 50 for total defense nor scoring defense. T/0 per game was 1.3. They just really didn't have true playmakers last year - plus they were rather a young'ish team.
We started off slow but finished fairly strong on defense. We struggled early after losing Lawson with not having a real playmaker and trying to find a pass rush, but we really came along.
Also, on paper, this is by far the most talent and depth Auburn has had on defense since 2004, possibly even the Dye era. Things that we struggled with last year were addressed in full this offseason. The DC is the only thing that gives pause about the defense.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:41 pm to BowlJackson
quote:After that head-scratching playcalling last season, that OC has to make you pause as well.
The DC is the only thing that gives pause about the defense.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:43 pm to 14&Counting
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Herbstreit actually picked AU to win it all in 2010.
He picked Auburn to win the west in 2010, Florida to win the SEC, and Ohio State to win it all.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:59 pm to RT1941
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After that head-scratching playcalling last season, that OC has to make you pause as well.
Last year was the first year that Gus really handed over the reins to Lashlee...he has been very clear that he is taking them back this year. Gus is the OC this year...Lashlee is the assistant OC.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:02 pm to HottyToddy7
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I really think ESPN is a sinking ship and they are doing anything for views and page views.
What better way than to target a moderately sized school in East Alabama with only a moderately sized bandwagon fan base.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:11 pm to Robert Duval
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Last year was the first year that Gus really handed over the reins to Lashlee
SO why didnt' Gus take back the reins last year when they realized that things weren't going so well?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:11 pm to Robert Duval
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Last year was the first year that Gus really handed over the reins to Lashlee
SO why didnt' Gus take back the reins last year when they realized that things weren't going so well?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:45 pm to thirdlawson
Not a dumb pick, IMO.
Due to their overall SOS, its hard to find more than 7 or 8 wins max. But we all know they've recruited well. And we also all know they always exceed expectations when no one is thinking they'll be good. So I can see why someone would pick them as a sleeper.
I believe Phil Steele also included them on his list of most improved teams too.
Unless Alabama, Clemson, and LSU fail miserably to meet expectations, that means Auburn would likely have a ceiling of 9-3. They'd have to beat Ole Miss and Georgia in addition to Arky, State, A&M, etc. to get to 9-3.
I think 7-5 or 8-4 is fairly realistic for them. Of course if they show no improvement at QB, it could quickly become 4-8. As per the norm with Auburn, we won't know until about October how they'll be.
Due to their overall SOS, its hard to find more than 7 or 8 wins max. But we all know they've recruited well. And we also all know they always exceed expectations when no one is thinking they'll be good. So I can see why someone would pick them as a sleeper.
I believe Phil Steele also included them on his list of most improved teams too.
Unless Alabama, Clemson, and LSU fail miserably to meet expectations, that means Auburn would likely have a ceiling of 9-3. They'd have to beat Ole Miss and Georgia in addition to Arky, State, A&M, etc. to get to 9-3.
I think 7-5 or 8-4 is fairly realistic for them. Of course if they show no improvement at QB, it could quickly become 4-8. As per the norm with Auburn, we won't know until about October how they'll be.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:51 pm to DuncanIdaho
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Funny, I haven't seen a started named yet. You must be in tight with Gus.
But, the dropped passes
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:54 pm to Gump4heisman
Arky has 9 returning on D and a u can count on them having a good Oline. Talent at WR. I'd say they are a much better sleeper pick than auburn. But auburn has suprised before. And 2010 with cam newton was a good bet. Nobody was sleeping on them that year.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:58 pm to Robert Duval
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Last year was the first year that Gus really handed over the reins to Lashlee...he has been very clear that he is taking them back this year.
Do you have any link to back that up? Actually am curious because I have never seen this brought up and should be a major factor when judging Auburn.
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