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re: Kirby Smart will not make it to year five
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:57 pm to Sandwich
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:57 pm to Sandwich
How is he a proven commodity?
I don't get that. He's never been a head coach. He was a DC at Alabama. Saban has his hands all over that defense and he pretty much had a talent advantage in every single game.
I get why you guys are excited, but he's far from proven.
I don't get that. He's never been a head coach. He was a DC at Alabama. Saban has his hands all over that defense and he pretty much had a talent advantage in every single game.
I get why you guys are excited, but he's far from proven.
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:59 pm to Sandwich
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Talent is not a problem at UGA...never has been. UGA is always in or near the top 3 in the SEC as far as recruiting goes.
The state of GA is a fertile a football state as anywhere else in this country with little to no in-state competition (GT Sucks).
Let us please try and give the Defensive Coordinator from a very good Alabama coaching squad the benefit of the doubt.
And those who are saying he will be a bust....who the frick should we have hired? I mean everyone told us to fire Mark Richt and when UGA finally does and replaces him with a very known commodity with ace recruiting ability, fresh of a National Title, all of sudden he is a bust?
Is GA cursed? Is that what some of you are getting at?
Let the man have a few seasons before we start this trash arse topic.
He's a proven commodity at D-Coor but not at head coach. Remember, Muschamp was can't-miss head coaching prospect and a proven commodity at D-Coor.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:03 pm to JesusQuintana
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I get why you guys are excited, but he's far from proven.
My thing is that everything he's done so far indicates he was ready for the job. He has excelled in every observable test so far. Until that changes, I'm going to be optimistic. So far there aren't any red flags.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:03 pm to JesusQuintana
Proven might be the wrong word, but does he not at least feel like a very low risk hire?
He's going to bring in the talent. If you don't think he knows what the hell hes doing on defense then I just can't help you. He's already signed a QB who has potential for days.
At the very least I think he's Muschamp with a better QB, offense, and OL. Hell, that alone might be enough to fit right in towards the top of the SEC.
Where do people think he fails? If he ends up failing, where will people point to and say, that's why right there?
He's going to bring in the talent. If you don't think he knows what the hell hes doing on defense then I just can't help you. He's already signed a QB who has potential for days.
At the very least I think he's Muschamp with a better QB, offense, and OL. Hell, that alone might be enough to fit right in towards the top of the SEC.
Where do people think he fails? If he ends up failing, where will people point to and say, that's why right there?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:04 pm to parrothead
Not sure what that has to do with Auburn. And I'm not sure your memory is very good anyway.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:05 pm to Crowknowsbest
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My thing is that everything he's done so far indicates he was ready for the job. He has excelled in every observable test so far. Until that changes, I'm going to be optimistic. So far there aren't any red flags.
I'm right there with ya. He's said and done the right things so far. Hopefully that translates to wins on the field.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:05 pm to danfraz
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but I also think Will is going to be much better on his second go round.
Why exactly do you think so?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:06 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:And this. Dude seems so comfortable. Doesn't seem like he has rushed into this thing using smoke and mirrors to drive excitement. He's where he wants to be, has a vision, and is focused on the things that will make that vision a reality.
My thing is that everything he's done so far indicates he was ready for the job.
Nothing so far indicates that he isn't 100% sure of everything he's doing.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:10 pm to joeyb147
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thread about uga and smart
alabama fans can't help but post about auburn
And the UGA fans know it's an arky troll but the bama fans are too dumb to realize...
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:11 pm to RidiculousHype
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I'd be interested to hear how Bama fans think he'll do at UGA.
Who knows? He was a good DC. If I had to bet, I'd say I think he'll do pretty well at UGA. Will he be GREAT? Probably not. Most coaches aren't. Will he be good enough to get UGA into the SECCG on occasion? I think so. But, he might also suck balls as a head coach. It's almost impossible to know until we have something to judge him by.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:14 pm to Sandwich
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Let the man have a few seasons before we start this trash arse topic.
Most of the posters like the op won't do this - out of ignorance. Mark my word, if we lose 3-4 this year (distinct possibility) the "ah ha I told you so's" will be coming out of the woodworks.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:19 pm to joeyb147
Mostly because Smart still feels like family, and we wish him the best.
The other part is because it's a stupid speculation thread made without any thought or established argument to defend the position. Not to mention, the subject seems hypocritical coming from Auburn.
The other part is because it's a stupid speculation thread made without any thought or established argument to defend the position. Not to mention, the subject seems hypocritical coming from Auburn.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:20 pm to VagueMessage
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but I also think Will is going to be much better on his second go round.
Why exactly do you think so?
Learn from mistakes #1. Stated recently that the mistakes made at UF he learned from and knows how to attack things in maybe a better way.
Will he win a NC? Doubtful but ya know building that program like Mullins has at MSU isn't a bad thing.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:25 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
It will be interesting to watch how Kirby does. Top notch DCs turned HC hasnt worked out recently so perhaps UGA and Kirby buck that trend. Kirby hasnt done anything to egregiously dumb yet, but really all he had had to do hire a staff, recruit and gwt through offseason. I would say he has done "safe" things which means he hasnt messed up. So thats a positive. Only thing complaints thus far are his handling of transfers but thats not bad. Those are all tricky. I know Mike and Mike ragged Smart one morning and some ATL sports shows took exception to the kid that wanted to go to Miami.
But he wont be judged on how he ran an offseason. Itll come down to wins and losses.
He hired a great Oline coach but a questionable OC.
I know one thing itll be weird to see UGA without Mark Richt. I think the OP is just a bit premature here. Kirby gets a couple of years before a bust tag gets assigned.
But he wont be judged on how he ran an offseason. Itll come down to wins and losses.
He hired a great Oline coach but a questionable OC.
I know one thing itll be weird to see UGA without Mark Richt. I think the OP is just a bit premature here. Kirby gets a couple of years before a bust tag gets assigned.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:28 pm to MustangGTech
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Kirby gets a couple of years before a bust tag gets assigned.
In reality he will. Not here. His merits as a head coach will be galvanized on the Rant by mid-season, one way or another.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:37 pm to MustangGTech
I have no idea how Kirby will perform as head coach. He seems to be handling everything extraordinarily well for a first timer so far.
-Didn't have a lot of attrition from coaching change
-Handles media well
-Recruiting well
-Seems to have the support of the administration ($$$)
-Players seem to be buying in by all reports, and performing well in Spring and Fall practice
It may not translate to wins, I have no idea.
But I have yet to see anyone give a legitimate reason based on actions Kirby is actually taking as to why he seems likely to fail. All I see is "He's Muschamp 2.0" or "Defensive Coordinators aren't good HC's" etc. Those aren't really reasons, just bloviation.
-Didn't have a lot of attrition from coaching change
-Handles media well
-Recruiting well
-Seems to have the support of the administration ($$$)
-Players seem to be buying in by all reports, and performing well in Spring and Fall practice
It may not translate to wins, I have no idea.
But I have yet to see anyone give a legitimate reason based on actions Kirby is actually taking as to why he seems likely to fail. All I see is "He's Muschamp 2.0" or "Defensive Coordinators aren't good HC's" etc. Those aren't really reasons, just bloviation.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:37 pm to JesusQuintana
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How is he a proven commodity?
My God obviously I meant a proven coach...a head coach? no...but name one fricking great coach who didn't start as a Coordinator. He is a Proven coach and recruiter. He has SEC experience going on 10 years...he studied under one of if not the best college coach of all time and on top of all of that, he is a fricking GA Alumni. It was a home run if you ask me. There were no other more qualified candidates.
You guys can make Muschamp references all you want, but I could just as easily say he will end up like Richt, Saban, Miles and the rest who were once Coordinators who did in fact do well and are thriving.
Like I said, give the guy a chance...he is a proven coach and recruiter. Lets give him a few seasons before we start hating hmm?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:40 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Why does tRant always wanna fire everyone before they even have time to step off the bus? #MillionaireLivesMatter
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:40 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
According to Finebaum, because Smart was tutored by Saban for so many yrs, he's the "next great college football coach and has everything it takes". For what it's worth. Which is zilch.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:21 pm to dan765
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McElwain is struggling at Florida
Which is a mystery to me. Even Muschamp recruited well while he was there. You'd think McElwain would at least have a top-10 recruiting classes, especially winning the SECE last year.
He's losing the local recruiting battle with Free Shoes University. Their national championship is newer.
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