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Kevin Steele is a genius
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:12 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:12 am
LSU has great talent on D and we weren't horrible. We made him look average.
And now it looks like Auburn has a lot of talent on that side now. He's gonna ride this shite until he gets a HC position from riding on the coattail of a successful HC.
Much like Smart and Muschamp. (Who will both crash and burn IMO) Hell, one already crashed and is still burning.
He's played Gus for a fool as we all know. Genius, simply genius.
And now it looks like Auburn has a lot of talent on that side now. He's gonna ride this shite until he gets a HC position from riding on the coattail of a successful HC.
Much like Smart and Muschamp. (Who will both crash and burn IMO) Hell, one already crashed and is still burning.
He's played Gus for a fool as we all know. Genius, simply genius.
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:14 am to GeauxTigerNation
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until he gets a HC position from riding on the coattail of a successful HC.
Outside of a miraculous debut season I'm not sure how much success gus has really had as HC.
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Much like Smart and Muschamp. (Who will both crash and burn IMO
lol
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:15 am to WG_Dawg
Letting Richt go was an extremely nuts decision. His best players were constantly injured. He should have had 2016 with Chubb.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:16 am to GeauxTigerNation
Last time Steele was a HC he went 9-36
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:19 am to GeauxTigerNation
I was surprised by the timing as well...but that has literally nothing to do with whether kirby will be successful here or "crash and burn".
It's far more likely he succeeds than fails.
It's far more likely he succeeds than fails.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:41 am to WG_Dawg
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Outside of a miraculous debut season I'm not sure how much success gus has really had as HC.
I have no idea how Gus is going to fare long term, but he does have 2 conference titles in 4 years of being a HC.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:51 am to GeauxTigerNation
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Kevin Steele is a genius
Gonna have to disagree.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:58 am to GeauxTigerNation
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And now it looks like Auburn has a lot of talent on that side now.
Sort of have to disagree there. Look a little closer at that one. Who is leaving, who is coming back. The impact of ones coming in.
Memphis looked worse than a D2 school. Paxton went to the sidelines and sat way over by himself. Didn't talk to coaches, had no headset. They lost a lot when their HC left, obviously. And Paxton's stock went way down. Way down. He's not going to do much in the interview sessions either with the way he comes off when he talks.
Sure, he'll still go high, but he could have really done something by simply showing up yesterday. He didn't. A lot of it was coaching and possibly preparation because he was way off most of the time.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:00 am to Pettifogger
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he does have 2 conference titles in 4 years of being a HC.
I couldn't care less what he did at arkansas state.
His time as a HC in the SEC has been:
1- fairy tale season with an SEC title
2- 8-5 season, 4th in division, outback bowl
3- 7-6 season, dead last in division, birmingham bowl
So again, I wouldn't necessarily say he's been a huge success.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:04 am to WG_Dawg
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It's far more likely he succeeds than fails.
What's your definition of "succeeds"?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:07 am to WG_Dawg
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I couldn't care less what he did at arkansas state.
His time as a HC in the SEC has been:
1- fairy tale season with an SEC title
2- 8-5 season, 4th in division, outback bowl
3- 7-6 season, dead last in division, birmingham bowl
So again, I wouldn't necessarily say he's been a huge success.
Pretty weird to discard someone's first season in the Sun Belt, and write off a national championship game appearance in the following year.
I won't argue it's now tarnished to some extent, but it's at minimum a very solid start to an HC career, even considering the present trending.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:21 am to GeauxTigerNation
to me, the best coach under Saban (and then Miles) was Bo Pelini.
IMO, he will coach at a high level again. He deserves it.
IMO, he will coach at a high level again. He deserves it.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:27 am to Pettifogger
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Pretty weird to discard someone's first season in the Sun Belt
my comment was in response to this quote
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He's gonna ride this shite until he gets a HC position from riding on the coattail of a successful HC.
Steele is in teh SEC, gus in the sec, it's logical based on the quote I responded to that the poster was talking about successful SEC head coaches. Arkansas state era has absolutely nothign to do with this.
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write off a national championship game appearance in the following year.
who wrote it off? It happened, it's not like I can close my eyes and it doesn't exist anymore. IF you're saying that I didn't specifically mention that in the post then sorry. But everythign I wrote is factual. He has clearly trended downward, and in a pretty serious manner at that.
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at minimum a very solid start to an HC career
In the SEC gus is 27-13 with 1 SEC title. Nobody is saying that sucks, it just looks to me almost like a 5 times better version of chiz. Come in white hot your first year then spiral down from there.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:32 am to AU4real35
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What's your definition of "succeeds"?
I don't guess I can give a hard and fast answer to that. If the only 2 options are either succeed or crash and burn (as stated in the OP) I'd certainly say succeed is more likely.
I think most fans have the following reasonable expectations:
-year 1, just look competitive EVERY game, whoop the teams we should (which we haven't lately) and at least be in a fight for 60 minutes against teams that are better than us (haven't done that a ton lately either)
-division title every 3/4 years (for reference, richt averaged winning the division every 3 years)
-SEC title every 5/6 years (reference, richt averaged winning the SEC every 7 years)
-make the playoffs at some point
IT's just really hard to specifically say if kirby doesn't win X% of games or make the playoffs by year Y then he's failed.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:03 am to jptiger2009
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IMO, he will coach at a high level again. He deserves it.
Not until he learns to control his outbursts. It is one thing to be like Muschamp and lose it on the sidelines during a game but Bo appears prone to go nuts anywhere, anytime.
No high level AD is going to take a chance on dealing with that kind of mess.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:05 am to GeauxTigerNation
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And now it looks like Auburn has a lot of talent on that side now. He's gonna ride this shite until he gets a HC position from riding on the coattail of a successful HC.
He's already done that and just about destroyed the Baylor program in the process.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:43 am to jptiger2009
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the best coach under Saban (and then Miles) was Bo Pelini.
Pelini never coached under Saban. He was Co-defensive coordinator at Oklahoma in 2004, Saban's last in BR. Muschamp was Saban's last DC for the Tigers.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:00 am to GeauxTigerNation
Melt day 2. What's you over/under on total melt days? Mine is 300.
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