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Ken Stabler's brain

Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:44 am
Posted by RaleighTiger
@ Booches, drinking a Stag
Member since Oct 2013
550 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:44 am
scroll down for a picture of it. He was diagnosed with CTE.

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Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11099 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:58 am to
CTE is a legit threat to the future of college football.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:01 am to
Kenny Stabler was the very epitome of a football player. Nothing ever came easy for Snake. Even now, after so clearly earning a spot in the pro football hall of fame, it hasn't happened yet.

I love Snake. I could never say Rest in Peace, because Stabler never rested. Party in Peace, Snake.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28894 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:07 am to
I don't think anyone denies CTE, but what is the alternative to protect players brains? It's the same for Rugby, UFC, and even hockey.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19181 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:38 am to
quote:

CTE is a legit threat to the future of football.


Fixed. My son is 7 and will be going into tackle after 2 years of Flag. It's my personal opinion that he will be safer in tackle as our flag league had a heck of a lot of contact with no protection for boys who were still learning coordination.

I have no illusions of him going past HS football if he goes that far, and I will be perfectly okay if he chooses to stop playing football.

CTE is the beginning of the end of football as we know it.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:41 am to
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It's the same for Rugby, UFC, and even hockey.


Are the rates of CTE the same for those sports?

Ive long thought that helmets were the problem. They make the helmets so well that players think they can just use their helmet as a weapon. I wonder if the old leather helmets were actually safer because players were more likely to body tackle
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:44 am to
Lived every day as if it were to be his last. When he finished his life on earth he turned in a well used worn out body.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3222 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:48 am to
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They make the helmets so well that players think they can just use their helmet as a weapon.
You make a very valid point. I've had 9 concussions in my life and have wondered at times if my forgetting a name or losing my place in a sentence is a result of that or if I'm just getting old. Hopefully this research continues and offers up more. I'd hate to see my favorite sport die, but it might have to.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:57 am to
Why don't you just put him in a cart and push him into a parked car? It would do the same thing. I don't get why parents want to damage a growing and fragile body let alone its most vital organ.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25155 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:00 am to
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Are the rates of CTE the same for those sports?



It is also high for soccer of all sports. Most concussions in that sport come from two players jumping to head the ball and colliding (and you will probably get a few of those a game), but there is increasing evidence that since players practice heading the ball all the time it is doing cumulative damage over the years.

Fifty years from now the sports landscape may look very different then it is today.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:00 am to
quote:

car


Death trap, you should stop driving. While you are at it, stop thinking for others.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20255 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:08 am to
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It is also high for soccer of all sports. Most concussions in that sport come from two players jumping to head the ball and colliding (and you will probably get a few of those a game), but there is increasing evidence that since players practice heading the ball all the time it is doing cumulative damage over the years.
Soccer heading definitely looks like it can jostle the brain. I don't think it's the single massive blow, it's the continuous impacts. It's like boxing and getting peppered by jabs; it's cumulative.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11065 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:11 am to
I see what has happened to many including my favorite player when I was a kid, Auburn great Terry Beasley, and it makes me sad. I loved watching Kenny the snake at Oakland. Pete Banaszak, Mark van Eagan, cliff branch, Fred Biletnikoff, etcetera.

Don't know if you guys have seen that HBO special on the 85 Bears. Jim McMahon is in pretty sad shape too.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25155 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:22 am to
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Soccer heading definitely looks like it can jostle the brain. I don't think it's the single massive blow, it's the continuous impacts. It's like boxing and getting peppered by jabs; it's cumulative.




Europe is going to have an increasing problem with it I think. Since younger soccer players (12 or so) go to schools run by professional teams they practice basically year round, so do the pros who only have a handful of months off. That is a lot of impacts to the head in a fairly short period of time.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:23 am to
quote:


CTE is a legit threat to the future of college football.



Don't know why people bury their heads in the sand on this.

I love watching football. I loved playing football. That said, i will never let my kids play the sport. Even if I knew they would make it to the NFL and make millions, I would never wish the consequences on them
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:26 am to
quote:


Soccer heading definitely looks like it can jostle the brain. I don't think it's the single massive blow, it's the continuous impacts. It's like boxing and getting peppered by jabs; it's cumulative.



I don't think heading is nearly as bad. You head through the ball

My friend who does brain related research (different topic) said the issue is that the brain moves and when your body comes to a sudden stop, brain's inertia collides it with your skull or something


For soccer, if you head through the ball you have the collision but not a suddent enough change in acceleration to cause injury to the brain
Posted by Iron Lion
North of the river
Member since Nov 2014
11798 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:26 am to
My 14 year old plays football. He will be playing in high school next year and me and the wife have the conversation everytime we hear about a brain damaged athlete if we want him playing or not. I played growing up and he really loves playing. Things like CTE make you think about it more often.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19181 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:30 am to
I played through HS and I won't have a problem *right now* if he does too. I had 2 concussions and I wonder what the threshold is. I'm a short guy, so I know there isn't much of a shot past HS playing so I certainly won't push the issue.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15358 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:37 am to
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Are the rates of CTE the same for those sports?



They never tell you. This is my problem with the whole CTE thing. I have never found a study that uses a control group. Also CTE is only detectable if they cut your brain open and that can only happen if you agree to let them do it. Well who is more likely to donate their brains than people who think they have CTE?
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11303 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:39 am to
Football is safer now than it has ever been, which more knowledge and awareness of plaayer safety that ever. I only hope its safe enough to continue.
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