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re: Just how good is Gary Pinkel, really?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:05 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:05 pm to WG_Dawg
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You can't tell me that the relationship between HS coaches in saint louis circa 2000 has anything to do with pinkels' success 10 years later.
Sure it may have been a factor the first 2 or 3 years, but after that if there's still issues that's on pinkel.
Nobody is trying to tell you that. They were trying to explain the first few years.
Now we're winning. What's there to explain? He's getting it done.
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:08 pm to RazorBroncs
I like Bielema. I know yall get a lot of shite and the first couple years haven't been good, but I agree that he is a good fit for your program. He will have you guys as players plenty of seasons.
Should be some really good battles between he and Pinkel. Just like the first one was.
Should be some really good battles between he and Pinkel. Just like the first one was.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:16 pm to NeverToYield
He's hands down the best coach in the SEC East and probably the 4th best coach in the SEC overall after Saban, Malzahn and Miles. Pinkel rarely has highly rated recruiting classes yet his team is always very competitive and churns out high draft picks year after year. It just shows how good he is at developing players.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 9:45 am to Bench McElroy
Lol, you people praising Pinkel crack me up... Best in the East and Top 4 in SEC?? Sure is early to be hittin the crack pipe
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:05 am to DrewDawg13
Is Richt the best in the division?
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:15 am to NeverToYield
Considering the resources that he has to work with coupled with the fact that Missouri isn't a traditional football powerhouse, I think Pinkel has done a great job....
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:18 am to tungi01
It's a good thing Georgia hired Richt instead because they would've won a title with Pinkel by now. 
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:19 am to Korin
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Is Richt the best in the division?
don't he and the OBC both have championships(i mean real championships)? Not sure how a coach that doesn't have them is somehow better...
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:20 am to Jagd Tiger
Spurrier has 6 SEC titles plus 1 ACC title he won at Duke. Richt has 2 SEC titles.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:28 am to NeverToYield
Pinkel is at least an 8. I was in Columbia when they hired him and it was apparrant after the 2nd season he was going to be an excellent coach. Still hard for me to believe that he never left Missouri for bigger and better things.
Mizzou hit the jackpot when they hired Pinkel. DUI's and all. The man can flat out coach and if he had a better recruiting base would be considered one of the best in the business.
Mizzou hit the jackpot when they hired Pinkel. DUI's and all. The man can flat out coach and if he had a better recruiting base would be considered one of the best in the business.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:40 am to Korin
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Spurrier has 6 SEC titles plus 1 ACC title he won at Duke. Richt has 2 SEC titles.
yea exactly,, and Pinkel is supposed to be better why? because he can't recruit well enough to actually win a big game?
when you can't win there is always a whole stack of reasons why you can't win, but those are what separate you from the ones who do win.
not that difficult is it.
and if he's the 3rd best coach in the East, which he might actually be, then that's still pretty good.
This post was edited on 7/3/15 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:44 am to Jagd Tiger
I know you're not sure, and it's been explained to you multiple times but you still don't get it.
If you can't see the difference in coaching at UF or UGA vs Mizzou then no one is ever going to be able to help you.
If you can't see the difference in coaching at UF or UGA vs Mizzou then no one is ever going to be able to help you.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:47 am to Wtodd
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No $4+M
That's not too bad an ROI compared to what some are paying coaches for average results.
This post was edited on 7/3/15 at 10:48 am
Posted on 7/3/15 at 11:34 am to DrewDawg13
Well, he has been able to pull out important conference games even by the slimmest of margins (see USCe last year)...and the CFB Gods have smiled upon him the last 2 years.
And he does do a very good job developing DE's and WR's.
And he does do a very good job developing DE's and WR's.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 2:27 pm to tigercreole
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No $4+M
That's not too bad an ROI compared to what some are paying coaches for average results.
He just got that raise this year, last year he made just over 3 million.
Fun fact: Pinkel and Spurrier are the only two coaches to be the all time winningest coach at two different schools.
Also, Pinkel learned how to coach from the same person that Saban did (Don James). They share a system style to a large degree. Saban had things that changed his style to fit his needs and Pikel did as well. The most stunning thing that happened to Pinkel by far was the death of Aaron O'Neal in 2004. He had a player die during practice and after that he became much more open to his players, more personable, and much less rigid about things.
People talk about 'we do what we do' as his system and that he recruits players that fit his style, but that is an over simplification. Pinkel adapts. He is probably the only coach in college football that has presided over his teams (MU) all time best rushing total football team ('13) and all time best passing total football team ('08).
He takes the recruits he gets and finds their strengths and adapts to make his teams successful. His coaches have been with him forever and they all tend to help identify things that work and then they go out and do it.
But as a MU fan, I don't think it can be stressed enough just how bad MU was up through 2001. When Pinkel took over he had 1 scholarship CB/Safety on the team. Yes, it took him some time to get going, but man, it was really, really bad.
I would compare him a lot to the job James Franklin was doing at Vandy. Given enough time, he took a Vandy like program and started winning division titles.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 5:49 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Pinkel doesn't rhyme with Thrones The show wasn't out yet You weren't making a change to Nike You're a fricking idiot You should jump dick first into a running fan.
Some one hit a nerve.......
Posted on 7/3/15 at 5:57 pm to Spindicus Lofrus
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In regards to winning conference/national titles, he is terrible. In regards to drinking & driving, he is truly gifted.
I bet ESPN is trilled that they invested in a program that has plummeted to mediocrity.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 6:14 pm to JesusQuintana
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If you can't see the difference in coaching at UF or UGA vs Mizzou then no one is ever going to be able to help you.
so Pinkels better because he can't win it all? ok, yea keep telling us how that works..
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:03 pm to Korin
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It's a good thing Georgia hired Richt instead because they would've won a title with Pinkel by now
revisiting this thought from last summer..
we just can't seem to get these predictions right can we..
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:34 pm to RazorBroncs
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I'd put GP on equal footing with Bielema as far as coaching ability. Both should be around an 8/10, but I think (without favoritism) that Bielema has a higher ceiling. Both are very good fits for their respective programs because they can develop and "do more with less" at programs that don't have much in-state talent to work with.
Still agree?
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