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Johnny will get hurt if he tries to run like that

Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:17 am
Posted by shanklin12
South of Fort Worth
Member since Oct 2012
404 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:17 am
Against....

Ole Miss
LSU
Auburn
Mississippi State
Alabama

I keep hearing this every week. Perhaps maybe this shouldn't keep being the line about why he wont have a good game each week. If you want to beat him and make him play poorly, make him turn the ball over. Stop with the "he wont make it through the game" line.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24856 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:19 am to
You just guaranteed Manziel to be sidelined with a concussion this week.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59442 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:19 am to
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19691 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:19 am to
quote:

I keep hearing this every week. Perhaps maybe this shouldn't keep being the line about why he wont have a good game each week. If you want to beat him and make him play poorly, make him turn the ball over. Stop with the "he wont make it through the game" line


It may be bound to happen. Don't wish it on the kid. But when you take big hits in this league there is bound to be an injury. Hell, Kentucky knocked Tebow out.
Posted by Duckman13
Tiger Stadium
Member since Dec 2006
3047 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:20 am to
I've seen him constantly lower his shoulder into d lineman and linebackers. I guarantee you his time will come. He may make it through this year, but dont make it seem like he is not human.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41143 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:20 am to
I will admit I was vocally in this camp. The kid has proven to be much tougher than I gave him credit for. He is a player.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10835 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:20 am to
quote:

I will admit I was vocally in this camp. The kid has proven to be much tougher than I gave him credit for. He is a player.

Posted by John Maplethorpe
Graubünden, Switzerland
Member since Jun 2010
889 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:25 am to
Some guys just now how to fall, how to take a hit without getting hurt. He's also so shifty he avoids the big hits.

He has no more chance of getting hurt than a pocket passer that could get blindsided by a 260 pound DE any given play.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:32 am to
quote:

I will admit I was vocally in this camp. The kid has proven to be much tougher than I gave him credit for. He is a player.


I told y'all he's a tough son of a bitch. I don't like him taking hits any more than anyone else, but JFF gonna JFF, I guess
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:32 am to
I seriously doubt little johnny will get through the line. Bama has always had the best run defense because they are gap sound. All gaps are closed with huge DL's and backed up by huge LB's that have the speed to cover the corners as well. They push the pocket and leave no holes to run through. So, if little johnny wants to run he has no where to go except in to a 300 lb DL waiting for him or a 250lb LB in full gallop mode blitzing through a setup hole.
This post was edited on 11/7/12 at 8:36 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:32 am to
its only a matter of time, in all likelihood. maybe he will be one of the damn few lucky qb's that stay healthy. there are two reasons that he has escaped injry so far

1-he senses when to get the hell out of dodge. h also leaves early a lot; he is a run first qb
2-he is very adroit at not taking a direct hit while he runs

while both of those reasons are good for him think it limits his ability to score in the red zone agains good defenses. florida and lsu prdoved that and so will bama.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:33 am to
quote:

He has no more chance of getting hurt than a pocket passer that could get blindsided by a 260 pound DE any given play.


"The only way you can check Gretzky is to hit him when he is standing still singing the national anthem."

Some players quickness and mobility, makes them almost impervious to getting knocked around. No one looks back and thinks Doug Flutie couldn't have been successful in the SEC, do they? At the same time, Troy Aikman's concussions ended his NFL career, and Romo will probably never face that even though he is 3 inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter. Johnny will be fine, as long as he keeps his wits about him.
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
4928 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:35 am to
Well he didn't get hurt against LSU, but it's probably not a coincidence that after he got popped a few times in that game he started to play like shite.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:36 am to
quote:

while both of those reasons are good for him think it limits his ability to score in the red zone agains good defenses.


I agreed, which is why I was clamouring for zone read and option plays in the red zone.

quote:

florida and lsu prdoved that and so will bama.


We didn't run zone read til Auburn, and the option playbook really opened up against State. We were almost traditional Air Raid in those games. Designed QB runs will be used against Alabama, and outside of the QB draw, none were against LSU or Florida. We will see how effective it is.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:39 am to
quote:

1-he senses when to get the hell out of dodge. h also leaves early a lot; he is a run first qb
2-he is very adroit at not taking a direct hit while he runs

while both of those reasons are good for him think it limits his ability to score in the red zone agains good defenses.


Not flaming, just not following your logic, GrandDad.

The two reasons you listed should improve his ability to score in the red zone, not limit it. I think the red zone struggles have more to do with the type of offense being run. Even though A&M doesn't run a pure Air Raid, that type of offense typically has a more difficult time producing in a shortened field.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:40 am to
The more he runs the more likely his is to sustain an injury. There is no way around that.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Well he didn't get hurt against LSU, but it's probably not a coincidence that after he got popped a few times in that game he started to play like shite.


No.

LSU's defensive scheme limited his effectiveness. He popped right back up after every hit like he always does. Let's not pretend y'all intimidated him or anything.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:43 am to
quote:

The more he runs the more likely his is to sustain an injury. There is no way around that.




Not trying to find a way around it. Of course his chances of injury go up the more he scrambles. That goes for any QB. However, he's proven tough enough to take the punishment and savvy enough to turn most extended plays into positive ones.

Is he impervious to injury? Hardly.

Can he be smarter? Absolutely.

Is he tougher than people give him credit for? Without a doubt.
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4335 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:43 am to
You included Auburn in that list....so I know your post makes no sense!
Posted by USCGamecocks
New Hampshire
Member since Oct 2008
817 posts
Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:49 am to
Eventually it happens. Connor shaw went through last year just fine. This year he fractures his shoulder blade. It'll happen eventually.
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