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re: JFF is Everywhere

Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by FormMorm
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:35 pm to
4 games scrooster? Care to make a ban bet?
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7956 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:56 pm to
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Hype and significance aren't mutually exclusive. Indeed, hype almost always necessarily follows significance.

But I'll pose the same problem to you that Vanilla Coke has avoided: Give me your definition of "significance." Then tell me why why ______ is more significant than JFF.


There is only one thing of significance in college footbal, and that is winning championships. By this definition JFF is not significant. Alabama's punter, whomever the frick that is, is more significant than JFF. And while JFF has a chance of becoming significant it seems more likely at this point that his early success will go to his head and ruin him. The Heisman trophy is little more than a beauty contest, and more often than not indicates a player is destined to fail if he makes it to a championship and fail again at the NFL level.

A&M had a great season, but at this point it's more likely that it was anomaly than it is the start of A&M's rise to dominance. I say this because most teams that jump up from the pack to a 2-loss season tend to fall back to the pack. All of this talk of A&M reigning supreme in the SEC is just talk... and that makes you guys the new Arkansas. Welcome to 3rd place in the SEC west. That's all you've accomplished.
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:00 pm to
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There is only one thing of significance in college footbal, and that is winning championships. By this definition JFF is not significant. Alabama's punter, whomever the frick that is, is more significant than JFF.


You should really consider posting less.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7956 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:18 pm to
I see. So your whole team is just playing for JFF to win a Heisman? Or do you think, just maybe, they are trying to win a championship?
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:27 pm to
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You have nothing upon which to claim JFF is not the most significant player in college football.


Depends what you mean by significant. Clowney is way better at his position than Manziel. Manziel is just more of a clown.
Posted by texasaggie08
Triple D, TX
Member since Dec 2010
1408 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:31 pm to
So your own QB takes beach vacations with clowns? Is that what you're saying?
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:32 pm to
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So your own QB takes beach vacations with clowns? Is that what you're saying?


Yes.
Posted by texasaggie08
Triple D, TX
Member since Dec 2010
1408 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:42 pm to
Can't wait for pics of AJ with sparklers in his mouth and champaign bottles in each hand to appear on Twitter this summer
Posted by Vanilla Coke
Member since Jan 2013
1343 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:50 pm to
Even if he does, he still has 3 national championships so he won't be quite as big of a tool as Manziel.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:52 pm to
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Can't wait for pics of AJ with sparklers in his mouth and champaign bottles in each hand to appear on Twitter this summer


What does this have to do with McCarron? You're using faulty logic by bringing him up. AJ's toolish behavior or lack thereof has nothing to do with whether or not Manziel is a clown.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36299 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 6:44 am to
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LSU, keep on being LSU.


When was your last real championship game?
Overall Record vs LSU?
Post season record vs LSU?

We'll keep enjoying our "dismal" 10 win seasons.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 7:52 am to
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When was your last real championship game?
Overall Record vs LSU?
Post season record vs LSU?

We'll keep enjoying our "dismal" 10 win seasons.



This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 7:54 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79965 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:15 am to
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Even if he does, he still has 3 national championships so he won't be quite as big of a tool as Manziel.


inb4picsofchesttattoo
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
984 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:09 am to
Don't use this:



Use this one instead:




Posted by troywew
Member since Nov 2010
2510 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 2:39 pm to
JFF doesn't teabag the ladies. He potato-sacks them.
Posted by troywew
Member since Nov 2010
2510 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 2:40 pm to
Hand sanitizers kill 99.9% of germs. JFF kills 100% of whatever the frick he wants.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7212 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 3:00 pm to
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A&M had a great season, but at this point it's more likely that it was anomaly than it is the start of A&M's rise to dominance. I say this because most teams that jump up from the pack to a 2-loss season tend to fall back to the pack.

Usually true. But see Oregon and Stanford.

But there's a more critical flaw in your analysis. You're assuming TAMU is a place with resources like the schools that rise to success out of nowhere (those that achieve anomalous success).

But it's not.

TAMU's 2012 season achieved success that's proportionate to its resources, and what the program should typically attain. With what TAMU has at its disposal, performing the way it did between 2002-2009ish was a massive failure. That's why A&M is/was considered one of the most underachieving programs in the country.

What you're seeing now is a level of success that mirrors what TAMU should achieve year in and year out, provided the leadership doesn't suck. The trend will likely continue because, unlike 2002-2009ish, we now have competent coaching and leadership. What's more, we're recruiting at an elite level with ease. If TAMU can secure the kind of talent it had on the 2012 team--talent acquired on the heels of the previous decade of futility--imagine the level of talent that will rush to a successful TAMU team? To make it easier, consider the current 2014 recruiting rankings.
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 3:07 pm
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 3:13 pm to
Nailed it.
Posted by Vanilla Coke
Member since Jan 2013
1343 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 3:56 pm to
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But there's a more critical flaw in your analysis. You're assuming TAMU is a place with resources like the schools that rise to success out of nowhere (those that achieve anomalous success). But it's not. TAMU's 2012 season achieved success that's proportionate to its resources, and what the program should typically attain. With what TAMU has at its disposal, performing the way it did between 2002-2009ish was a massive failure. That's why A&M is/was considered one of the most underachieving programs in the country. What you're seeing now is a level of success that mirrors what TAMU should achieve year in and year out, provided the leadership doesn't suck. The trend will likely continue because, unlike 2002-2009ish, we now have competent coaching and leadership. What's more, we're recruiting at an elite level with ease. If TAMU can secure the kind of talent it had on the 2012 team--talent acquired on the heels of the previous decade of futility--imagine the level of talent that will rush to a successful TAMU team? To make it easier, consider the current 2014 recruiting rankings.


Congrats. LSU, Bama, & Florida have been doing this for the past decade. Welcome to competitive football.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79965 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 4:04 pm to
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Congrats. LSU, Bama, & Florida have been doing this for the past decade. Welcome to competitive football.


Exactly. A&M is a program compared to LSU right after hiring Saban, Florida right after hiring Spurrier, and Alabama right after hiring Bryant.
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