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re: IYO: SEC Tiers

Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

Tier 1: 

Alabama 
LSU 
Florida 

Tier 2: 

Georgia 
Tennessee 
Auburn 

Tier 3: 

Texas A&M 
Ole Miss 
Arkansas 

Tier 4: 

Mississippi State 
Missouri 
South Carolina 

Tier 5: 

Kentucky 
Vanderbilt 


That looks about right. I might flip Ole Miss and South Carolina.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

Since college football warehouse is dedicated to college football history, I would take their opinion over yours. They say A&M is much, much closer to being Ole Miss. You are only 82 points ahead of them. You are almost double that amount of points (162) behind Auburn.

I would take their ratings over winsipedia since they include strength of schedule. Any ranking system would be bogus without it. Winsipedia also includes irrelevant factors like NFL draft picks and number of all Americans.

Just remember that the CFDW is one person's random site.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:17 pm to
Kind of like you using conference championships to determine who is better because it is one of the few categories that favors you. Forget that the teams didn't play the same competition.

I believe Texas has more conference championships than Alabama. I guess this means Texas has a better program , huh?

However, we do that when all 3 programs have played in the same conference you have the same number of conference championships as Ole Miss and less than Auburn
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

You would take a subjective ranking website over unbiased hard numbers because they suit your argument?

I gave you wins, win %, and conf championships and you give CFBwarehouse points?

That's like Monopoly money bro

Y'all weren't in the same conference until 2012 though.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:25 pm to
Not surprised you are dumb enough to respond to my post and ignore the original post ranking Florida on the same level as Bama and LSU. That is probably the biggest bs post in this entire thread. Florida is probably the 6th out of the big 6 historically and God knows they are nowhere close to being on the same level as Alabama
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:26 pm to
You do realize that we're ranked above Auburn in your precious CFDW rankings, right?
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Florida is probably the 6th out of the big 6 historically and God knows they are nowhere close to being on the same level as Alabama

sorry, but this is Sig worthy coming from Phan
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69890 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

TT9


Fun fact of the day :


Hitler was also a vegetarian.



Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:33 pm to
He's been championing the CFDW rankings all thread long not realizing that we're ranked ahead of Auburn.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:36 pm to
It's been pointed out many times here.

He also hated smoking, and my monkey smokes like a mofo!

So Adolf can die in a fire while drowning.
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5569 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:55 pm to
All time football only

Tier 1
Alabama

Tier 2
Tennesee LSU Florida

Tier 3
Georgia Auburn

Tier 4
Arkansas

Tier 5
aTm Missouri ole miss

Tier 6
USCe Miss St kentucky

Tier 7

Vanderbilt
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:56 pm to
I would take their rankings over any other I have seen, but that doesn't mean they are perfect. I would include conference championships as long as you balance it out with strength of schedule to show the difference in difficulty between the conferences.

If you truly count all time going back to when teams first started playing football in the 1890's, Florida has the fewest conference championships among the big 6 by a fairly wide margin
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:00 pm to
What about da crystal?
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

If you truly count all time going back to when teams first started playing football in the 1890's, Florida has the fewest conference championships among the big 6 by a fairly wide margin


Surely you're not bringing up SIAA championships

ETA: And it's not a wide margin... it's 12 vs. 8 (11 if you count the probation titles)
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 11:03 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:00 pm to
Since college football warehouse is dedicated to college football history, I would take their opinion over yours. Right?
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8597 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

I would take their rankings over any other I have seen, but that doesn't mean they are perfect.


They ranked Vandy 41st. Most rankings have Vandy near the very bottom, which I don't agree with, but 41st? That's only 6 spots behind Clemson.

Oh, and South Carolina is 61st.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:05 pm to
You're gonna confuse him even more now.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:08 pm to
Why not? Alabama counts national championships from that time and most every other conference claims league championships from that time. Every team obviously counts wins and losses from that time. The SEC teams that won them generally list them on their official website
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:11 pm to
Because it wasn't really a conference, not in a modern sense. It was like 20 something schools and there were only 3 or 4 conference games. The Big Ten and Big 8 existed in their (near) modern state at the time so you can't really count them the same.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:14 pm to
If you count probation titles, I guess Auburn should claim 93. We had the best record that year and beat Florida head to head

Auburn and Alabama also finished with the same number of losses in either 71 or 72, but bama won the conference title by themselves because they played and won one extra conference game. Seems pretty odd to me.
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