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re: IYO: SEC Tiers
Posted on 7/6/15 at 5:49 pm to HurdForHeisman1
Posted on 7/6/15 at 5:49 pm to HurdForHeisman1
I got this:
Tier 1= Alabama
Tier 2= The rest of the teams in the SEC!
Tier 1= Alabama
Tier 2= The rest of the teams in the SEC!
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:29 pm to lsu777
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take a look at cfbwarehouse who have by far the most accurate all time ratings
auburn is 13th
A&M is 20th
Arky is 23rd
The CFDW is as subjective as anyone else. If you look at their data, most of Auburn's advantage in points comes from their schedule (i.e. SOS), which is obviously a subjective measure. If you remove that, Arkansas had a higher overall rating up to the year 2000. The schedule points make up half of all points given, which seems excessive, anyway.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:47 pm to redeye
The fact that Arkansas has pretty much sucked donkey balls since joining the SEC seems to indicate a pretty big difference in the level of competition
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:50 pm to Nguyening
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Yet were 4-1 head to head,
Doesn't really mean anything. Vandy is ahead of auburn head to head
but do you think Vandy should be in a higher tier?
Head to head is important but not to decide tiers...
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:54 pm to auburnphan23
The SOS has not been Arkansas' problem, it's that they had the recruiting rug pulled out from under them. They went from playing 8 games in Texas a year to 0-1.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:56 pm to LanierSpots
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Doesn't really mean anything. Vandy is ahead of auburn head to head
but do you think Vandy should be in a higher tier?
Head to head is important but not to decide tiers...
I agree, and your program has the advantage at most metrics. They are all close enough that putting us in the same tier is accurate however. All time wins, win %, bowls, all Americans, natty's, heismans etc are all very similar.
I didn't rank us ahead of auburn, but if I was buying stock I'd invest in A&M over auburn going forward.
Your all time SEC point differential is only +533, ours is already +90
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:07 pm to Nguyening
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The SOS has not been Arkansas' problem, it's that they had the recruiting rug pulled out from under them. They went from playing 8 games in Texas a year to 0-1.
That was a lot of the problem, but you may remember that we hit rock bottom in 1990, after Hatfield left. Our struggles began before we joined the SEC and not as a result of it. In 1992, before we'd even played a single SEC game, we lost to frickin' Citadel and fired our head coach a week before our first SEC game. Our administration is to blame more then anything.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:08 pm to Nguyening
Who cares what you would do? You can just look at this thread and see the average poster on this board wouldn't put Aggie on the same level as Auburn.
Posters like you just live up to all the derogatory things your former Big 12 conference mates said about the Aggies being delusional as frick and having a greatly over inflated opinion of themselves
Posters like you just live up to all the derogatory things your former Big 12 conference mates said about the Aggies being delusional as frick and having a greatly over inflated opinion of themselves
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:21 pm to auburnphan23
You're just flaming about everything and slinging insults, I'm being reasonable and objective. There's a reason you're widely considered a bottom 5 poster on this site for all fanbases. Im trying to talk substance and you wanna cry about it even being a conversation.
If you don't think we're the same tier, tell me why?
I said you guys have an advantage (while slight) in almost every category. What more do you want?
Here are our programs head to head Auburn v A&M Winsipedia
If you don't think we're the same tier, tell me why?
I said you guys have an advantage (while slight) in almost every category. What more do you want?
Here are our programs head to head Auburn v A&M Winsipedia
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:27 pm to Nguyening
Yet most people outside of your own delusional fan base would agree with my opinion of Aggiie. Numerous Big 12 fan bases warned SEC fans that Aggies were delusional as frick, so your predictions of future greatness do not mean jack shite to me
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:30 pm to HurdForHeisman1
How does UT qualify for their 3rd place tier? UT is a 5th tier team.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:31 pm to auburnphan23
Gay
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:40 pm to Landmass
Their whole athletic department is poor/irrelevant no doubt.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:40 pm to Landmass
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UT is a 5th tier team.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:42 pm to auburnphan23
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Yet most people outside of your own delusional fan base would agree with my opinion of Aggiie. Numerous Big 12 fan bases warned SEC fans that Aggies were delusional as frick, so your predictions of future greatness do not mean jack shite to me
All flames aside, and with no projections of the future. How shitty can we be, to have such similar resumes?
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:44 pm to Landmass
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How does UT qualify for their 3rd place tier? UT is a 5th tier team.
I have rustled the shite out of tRebals
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:46 pm to redeye
The CFDW all-time ranking has Vanderbilt at #41.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:46 pm to Chantecler
Football only, historically:
Tier 1
Bama
Tier 2
Tenn
LSU
GA
Auburn
Fla
Tier 3
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Tier 4
Mizzou
South Carolina
Tier 5
Kentucky
Miss St
Vandy
If you factor in basketball it changes a lot. Kentucky would obviously jump way up b/c of their dominance in basketball. Florida and Arkansas would also rise b/c of their basketball success. Other teams would get smaller bumps b/c of conference titles and tourney appearances but no national titles (like LSU, Mizzou, and Alabama)
The more sports you add, the more teams will go up and down, but really college football and basketball are the only two that carry significant national prestige. Baseball is making a move, but it is still probably not a top 10 sport in the US.
Tier 1
Bama
Tier 2
Tenn
LSU
GA
Auburn
Fla
Tier 3
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Tier 4
Mizzou
South Carolina
Tier 5
Kentucky
Miss St
Vandy
If you factor in basketball it changes a lot. Kentucky would obviously jump way up b/c of their dominance in basketball. Florida and Arkansas would also rise b/c of their basketball success. Other teams would get smaller bumps b/c of conference titles and tourney appearances but no national titles (like LSU, Mizzou, and Alabama)
The more sports you add, the more teams will go up and down, but really college football and basketball are the only two that carry significant national prestige. Baseball is making a move, but it is still probably not a top 10 sport in the US.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:54 pm to Nguyening
Aggies' resume is about as similar to Ole Miss as you are to Auburn. You are just as close or almost as close to Ole Miss in wins, winning percentage, and national championships as you are to Auburn. This is with Auburn playing a much a tougher schedule
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:02 pm to HurdForHeisman1
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Tier 1: Alabama LSU Florida
This is just a troll to get LSU fans to bite on the fact that they have to play both Tier 1 teams and nobody else does... But I am smart, I am not going to fall for that trick - but its true!
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