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re: Is the Big 12 still a power conference?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 8:43 am to Old Sarge
Posted on 5/3/15 at 8:43 am to Old Sarge
But but but Sarge, Aggy voted for uneven revenue sharing at first! Aggy turned down an uneven share of a network that wasn't close to what the final LHN was! That makes us hypocrites! Right?
Here is the exact quote FYI from Scott:
But Texas is the good guy!
Here is the exact quote FYI from Scott:
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Scott added that he was given some strict parameters to work with by the university leaders who hired him about a year ago.
"My marching orders were clear. There are essential principles and values the Pac-10 holds true to that we were not going to compromise as part of trying to get a deal done."
But Texas is the good guy!
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 8:53 am to cardboardboxer
Thanks for pointing out the dishonest quote, cardboard. Aggie honor code and all.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 8:57 am to oman
There's several
Pitt/WVU
Pitt/Penn State
Penn State/ND
Texas/ATM
OU/Nebraska
MD/Duke (bball)
Just off the top off my head and doesn't even take into account the best bball conference ever becoming a shell of itself. All cuz of realignment
Pitt/WVU
Pitt/Penn State
Penn State/ND
Texas/ATM
OU/Nebraska
MD/Duke (bball)
Just off the top off my head and doesn't even take into account the best bball conference ever becoming a shell of itself. All cuz of realignment
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:00 am to oman
In my opinion, the Big 12 needs to be taken apart and just make a small P5 conference for the likes of Cincy, West Virginia, BYU, Kansas, Iowa State, Kansas State and the like and move Texas to either independent or Pac 12, move Oklahoma to the B1G.
B1G targets by conference:
SEC - Vandy, Missouri and Florida. I have not heard of any other SEC schools that the B1G has studied.
ACC: Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Duke, Miami, and Georgia Tech.
Big 12: Kansas, OKlahoma. I haven't heard of any other Big 12 teams that they have studied.
Other schools: MIT and similar schools for some of their non-revenue sports like rowing.
ESPN isn't going to want to lose its grip on the Eastern schools to the B1G.
B1G targets by conference:
SEC - Vandy, Missouri and Florida. I have not heard of any other SEC schools that the B1G has studied.
ACC: Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Duke, Miami, and Georgia Tech.
Big 12: Kansas, OKlahoma. I haven't heard of any other Big 12 teams that they have studied.
Other schools: MIT and similar schools for some of their non-revenue sports like rowing.
ESPN isn't going to want to lose its grip on the Eastern schools to the B1G.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:04 am to oman
Any time you or any Texas supporter wants another lesson on realignment I am glad to oblidge. I hate seeing Texas fans who have been mislead and think Texas was the good guy in all of this.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 9:58 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:33 am to nebraskafaninwi
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In my opinion, the Big 12 needs to be taken apart
The GOR is the only thing holding it together. They never thank Mizzou for that though.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:46 am to cardboardboxer
That's a different quote, the one I am referring to was more harsh.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:50 am to nebraskafaninwi
Oklahoma is not AAU, therefore, no Big Ten.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:51 am to oman
How is a quote posted verbatim dishonest?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:52 am to Old Sarge
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That's a different quote, the one I am referring to was more harsh.
All point to the same thing: Texas was a poor partner!
Here is a great read on that:
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My favorite quote that explains it all:
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"In the 11th hour, after months of telling us they understand the TV rights, they're trying to pull a fast one on the verge of sealing the deal in the regents meeting," the source said. "They want a better revenue sharing deal and their own network. Those were points of principle. (The Pac-10) wants to treat everyone fairly. It's been that way for months of discussions."
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 9:54 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 10:45 am to CGSC Lobotomy
The B1G would put together steps for them to get AAU status.
CIC is what a school can not get with the B1G until they are a full member of the conference
CIC is what a school can not get with the B1G until they are a full member of the conference
Posted on 5/3/15 at 11:46 am to cardboardboxer
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Here is a great read on that:
LINK
Ha ha, irony. A link to a Cal site. Cal, with a chip on its shoulder not quite Aggie-size, but close enough by west coast standards.
We get it. A&M was slighted by Texas. A&M told the Big12 they were in it for the long haul but left for a better deal.
Most understand that sometimes you take the deal that's best for you. The Aggie need for myths, real or imagined, is strong so they need a narrative that makes them out to have some motive holier than simply looking out for number 1.
All that being said, A&M for TCU, football wise, was a net win for both conferences I guess. West Virginia is a geographical mess, but so was Mizzou.
No reason at all that the teams in the Big12 won't come around, with or without future realignment.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:06 pm to oman
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All that being said, A&M for TCU, football wise, was a net win for both conferences I guess. West Virginia is a geographical mess, but so was Mizzou.
How was Mizzou a geographical mess? Columbia is a relatively easy drive from Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Lincoln and Stillwater. So the teams that they played regularly.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:08 pm to TheCheshireHog
No shite. He totally lost me there. Mizzou bordered 3 states in the Big XII (4if you count Neb). How is that a geographical mess?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:10 pm to El Segundo Guy
Mizzou wasn't a geographical mess in the Big 12 North. They are an odd ball in the SEC East though. If they moved to the B1G they wouldn't be out of place either.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:10 pm to oman
Arrogant and stupid.
Prior to 2012, the most awkward member of the conference, geographically, was Iowa State.
Prior to 2012, the most awkward member of the conference, geographically, was Iowa State.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:16 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Ouch, the geography smack burns.
The point is the trade off of Mizzou for West Virginia doesn't really negatively affect the Big12.
The point is the trade off of Mizzou for West Virginia doesn't really negatively affect the Big12.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:26 pm to oman
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The point is the trade off of Mizzou for West Virginia doesn't really negatively affect the Big12.
Your point is dumb as hell b/c WVU is way further from everyone compared to Mizzou. Those travel costs add up boss.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:28 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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In my opinion, the Big 12 needs to be taken apart
It's too late now, but the XII should have either kicked Texas out or voted to dissolve and then reform without them.
Nebraska + Mizzou + A&M + Colorado >>>>>> Whorns
If they would have been proactive in the beginning, it would have been their decision instead of Texas' decision. As it stands now, when Big Tex bails the conference will implode.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:30 pm to Dr RC
You can't compare travel between Missouri and West Virginia. That's insane. Plus Mizzou had rivals and WV did not. Its a total downgrade and it's impossible to spin it any other way.
And I'm glad as hell to be out of that shitshow.
And I'm glad as hell to be out of that shitshow.
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