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Is Tennessee close to the edge where this is a must hit home run hire?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:36 am
1998 was along time ago and we are at a generational shift where kids today do not remember a good Tennessee program. If they fire Butch seems the next hire MUST win or Vols will just become another ghost program like Nebraska is fast becoming.
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Thoughts?
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:38 am to Cheese Grits
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Vols will just become another ghost program like Nebraska is fast becoming.
Tennessee is much closer to extremely fertile recruiting, not so with Nebraska. Big difference.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:40 am to Cheese Grits
I still wouldn't compare Tennessee to Nebraska. Nebraska is in a recruiting black hole. The state of Tennessee isn't necessarily the best recruiting state in the world, but they're close to plenty of recruiting hotbeds. Nebraska isn't.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:40 am to Cheese Grits
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:42 am to lsufball19
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I still wouldn't compare Tennessee to Nebraska. Nebraska is in a recruiting black hole. The state of Tennessee isn't necessarily the best recruiting state in the world, but they're close to plenty of recruiting hotbeds. Nebraska isn't.
Agree. Nebraska's great teams of the 90's were built on players from the coasts that are not allowed into P5 schools in 2017. The way they won in the 1990s literally can't happen anymore, and the way they won before that is extinct.
Tennessee isn't in that sort of position.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:42 am to Cheese Grits
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home run hire
Butch was a home run
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:44 am to Supravol22
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Big difference.
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The heyday of Nebraska meant recruiting the east coast, which now Ohio State and Michigan are getting now they added Maryland and Rutgers. While Vols historically did well in state, seems their best was coming from GA which now has become more fractured with ACC success.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Agree. Nebraska's great teams of the 90's were built on players from the coasts that are not allowed into P5 schools in 2017. The way they won in the 1990s literally can't happen anymore, and the way they won before that is extinct.
Tennessee isn't in that sort of position.
George is educating fools ITT
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:46 am to Cheese Grits
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While Vols historically did well in state, seems their best was coming from GA which now has become more fractured with ACC success.
Tennessee is still signing good players from Georgia. The places that they no-longer sign elite kids from are Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana. But, the state of Tennessee has grown and the talent there is much better than it was in the mid-90s.
Tennessee with a good head coach will recruit well enough to win a lot of games. Heck, Butch recruited well enough to win a lot of games.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:00 am to David Ricky
Yeah. Doubful anyone could recruit well enough at Nebraska anymore for them to consistently be a top 15 ranked team, let alone compete for championships.
For that reason, I think those dismissing Scott Frost as a viable Vols HC candidate because they assume he'd prefer the job at Nebraska (his alma mater) may be off the mark. He liked the UCF opportunity, because of the hotbed of HS players in that area that fit his style of offense.
For that reason, I think those dismissing Scott Frost as a viable Vols HC candidate because they assume he'd prefer the job at Nebraska (his alma mater) may be off the mark. He liked the UCF opportunity, because of the hotbed of HS players in that area that fit his style of offense.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:03 am to Cheese Grits
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While Vols historically did well in state, seems their best was coming from GA which now has become more fractured with ACC success.
The Vols have recruited well under Butch. They even recruited well under Dooley for the most part. It hasn't become as fractured as you may think. Knoxville is 5 hour or less drive from at least 6 or 7 recruiting hotbeds.
For instance, they signed the #4 class in 2015. They had 7 signees from the Atlanta metro area, 2 from NC, 2 from VA. Only 9 of their 30 commits were from the state of Tennessee. They still have no problem recruiting nationally
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:07 am to Wtodd
I mean he did get them a life championship. Who else has done that?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:10 am to Supravol22
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Tennessee is much closer to extremely fertile recruiting, not so with Nebraska. Big difference.
Except they have to go out of state, just like Nebraska. They’ll never have the recruiting advantages that Georgia, LSU, Bama, the Texas schools and Florida schools have.
The only hope is to mimic what OU does, and that’s raid Texas most years. If they can get a guy to do that they Tenn. can turn it around otherwise they are the new Nebraska.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:11 am to Cheese Grits
If they don't get a home run hire they will be a 8-9 win team for a long time.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:12 am to Cheese Grits
So are we going off of the assumption that if Nebraska isn't Frost's destination this year that it is a certainty that the only other option is Knoxville?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:14 am to okietiger
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Except they have to go out of state, just like Nebraska. They’ll never have the recruiting advantages that Georgia, LSU, Bama, the Texas schools and Florida schools have.
It's one thing to make a 3 hour drive out of state for a recruit as opposed to having to go multiple states over like Nebraska does. Atlanta is 3 hours from Knoxville. Knoxville is twice as far from Memphis. No one said they'll have the advantages that the schools you mentioned do. The question is do they have an advantage over Nebraska. I think it's pretty clear they do.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:15 am to GameCocky88
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So are we going off of the assumption that if Nebraska isn't Frost's destination this year that it is a certainty that the only other option is Knoxville?
Where was that said, anywhere in this thread
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:17 am to lsufball19
Fair enough. They are closer to recruiting hotbeds than Nebraska is.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:17 am to okietiger
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Except they have to go out of state, just like Nebraska. They’ll never have the recruiting advantages that Georgia, LSU, Bama, the Texas schools and Florida schools have. The only hope is to mimic what OU does, and that’s raid Texas most years. If they can get a guy to do that they Tenn. can turn it around otherwise they are the new Nebraska.
They aren't at the top tier of in-state recruiting, but they are certainly in that next group. In-state talent in Tennessee is better than Oklahoma. It's in the that tier behind the 7-8 big talent producing states (Florida, Texas, California, Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama, Virginia).
TENNESSEE
2013 - 8 4-stars, 1 5-star
2014 - 7 4-stars, 0 5-stars
2015 - 10 4-stars, 0 5-stars
2016 - 8 4-stars, 0 5-stars
2017 - 6 4-stars, 3 5-stars
2018 - 8 4-stars, 1 5-star
OKLAHOMA
2013 - 2 4-stars, 0 5-stars
2014 - 7 4-stars, 0 5-stars
2015 - 5 4-stars, 0 5-stars
2016 - 1 4-stars, 0 5-stars
2017 - 5 4-stars, 0 5-stars
2018 - 5 4-stars, 1 5-star
And they will always sign 6-7 good players from North Carolina/Georgia/Florida.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 11:19 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:18 am to Cheese Grits
They should throw the bank at bob stoops. He can beat alabama
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