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Is Saban the greatest coach of all time.

Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:58 pm
I'm not talking college football, or even football in general.

I'm talking the greatest coach, of all time, of any sport. I say yes, unequivocally yes, you'd be hard-pressed to find another coach capable of creating this amount of sheer dominance.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:00 pm to
No.
Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
3579 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:00 pm to
definitely not
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:00 pm to
frick no.

He has a losing record vs. Tommy Tuberville
Posted by RMFTBama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
5285 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:00 pm to
We realize you're butthurt, but please, knock it off.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:01 pm to
Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer have done something Nick hasn't.

The Zen master has dominated with two different franchises.

So no.
Posted by TideSatchel
Member since Nov 2011
2581 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:01 pm to
Yes IMO. In the history of organized sport.
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble
Member since Jan 2012
10773 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:01 pm to
John McDonnell (Track Legend at Arkansas) Most Successful NCAA Coach of All Time

McDonnell's 42 national championships (which include 19 in indoor track, 12 in outdoor track and 11 in cross country) are more than any coach in any sport in the history of college athletics.


20 conference triple crowns since 1982, including eight straight between 1987 and 1995
25 consecutive conference titles in cross country with indoor track and outdoor track combined from 1987 to 1995
73 conference championships in the last 77 events Arkansas has entered since 1981-1982
84 conference championships overall since 1974 including 38 in the SWC and 46 in the SEC (out of a possible 50, or 90 percent)
12 consecutive NCAA indoor track championships (1984–1995)
coached 185 track All-Americans, earning 652 separate All-America honors
34 consecutive league cross country championships, including 17 straight in the SEC (1974–2007)[1]
54 individual national champions
23 Olympians coached spanning three decades and six different Olympic Games including gold, silver and bronze medalists
his 1994 indoor track squad won the national championship by the widest margins in the history of the sport as well as scored the most points (94) in the history of the NCAA event
his 1994 squad scored a meet record 223 points at the SEC Outdoor Championships
has been named national, regional or conference coach of the year a total of 140 times
has coached 23 Olympians, including gold, silver and bronze medalists, 105 NCAA individual event champions and 331 individual event conference champions


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Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65602 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer


Sweet clean Razorbacks. Has to be their upbringing.
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
3081 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

'm not talking college football, or even football in general.

I'm talking the greatest coach, of all time, of any sport. I say yes, unequivocally yes, you'd be hard-pressed to find another coach capable of creating this amount of sheer dominance.



Uhm, a Mr John Wooden would like to speak with you.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13312 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:03 pm to
McDonnell was hired as the cross country coach in 1972 and added the entire men's track and field program in 1978.

Coach McDonnell led the track team to their first national championship at the 1984 NCAA Indoor Championships while the school was a member of the now-defunct Southwest Conference. Since then, the University of Arkansas has won 42 NCAA championships, including 11 cross country, 19 indoor track and 12 outdoor track. Other schools have won only 24 combined NCAA titles in the three sports during the same period.

McDonnell's 42 national championships (which include 19 in indoor track, 12 in outdoor track and 11 in cross country) are more than any coach in any sport in the history of college athletics. The next highest is 31 by Pat Henry, former LSU and current track coach at Texas A&M University.

McDonnell also won five national triple crowns. (in 1984-85, 1991–92, 1992–93, 1994–95 and 1998–99) Texas-El Paso has won three national triple crowns. No other school has ever won one.

In addition, McDonnell team and individual achievements include[1]:

20 conference triple crowns since 1982, including eight straight between 1987 and 1995
25 consecutive conference titles in cross country with indoor track and outdoor track combined from 1987 to 1995
73 conference championships in the last 77 events Arkansas has entered since 1981-1982
84 conference championships overall since 1974 including 38 in the SWC and 46 in the SEC (out of a possible 50, or 90 percent)
12 consecutive NCAA indoor track championships (1984–1995)
coached 185 track All-Americans, earning 652 separate All-America honors
34 consecutive league cross country championships, including 17 straight in the SEC (1974–2007)[1]
54 individual national champions
23 Olympians coached spanning three decades and six different Olympic Games including gold, silver and bronze medalists
his 1994 indoor track squad won the national championship by the widest margins in the history of the sport as well as scored the most points (94) in the history of the NCAA event
his 1994 squad scored a meet record 223 points at the SEC Outdoor Championships
has been named national, regional or conference coach of the year a total of 140 times
has coached 23 Olympians, including gold, silver and bronze medalists, 105 NCAA individual event champions and 331 individual event conference champions
The Razorback outdoor track facility on the campus of the University of Arkansas is named in his honor. McDonnell has been inducted as a member of the United States Track Coaches Hall of Fame, the University of Arkansas Sports Hall of Honor, the Arkansas Sports Hall of Fame, the University of Southwestern Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame and the Mayo Hall of Fame.

Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:03 pm to
wall of text
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
Look behind you
Member since Jul 2012
1695 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:03 pm to
The fact that this is even questioned is evidence of his greatness, but, no, I don't think he's the GOAT across all spectrum's.
Posted by afatgreekcat
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
2828 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:03 pm to
He isn't even the greatest CFB coach of all time, let alone football coach... let alone coach period.

Posted by JDM1992
In your head
Member since Dec 2011
15141 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:04 pm to
This post was edited on 2/14/13 at 9:17 pm
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3466 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:06 pm to
Red Aurbach, John Wooden and Phil Jackson are laughing their arse off at this.
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 4:06 pm
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble
Member since Jan 2012
10773 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Red Aurbach, John Wooden and Phil Jackson are laughing their arse off at this.


at my post?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:08 pm to
I guess, you only posted the most dominate and successful college coach of all time.
Posted by polarbehr
behind gump lines
Member since Sep 2011
6568 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:09 pm to
No

Failed at pro level
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
3579 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:10 pm to
I'd throw in Joe Torre, Angelo Dundee, and Bill Belichick to name a few more.
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