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re: Is Matt Canada Bama's kryptonite
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:51 pm to bamafan1001
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:51 pm to bamafan1001
quote:Ohhhh. So you said something that you didn't mean, got proven wrong and now your trying to backtrack. Of course
Since you are being such a little bitch about it ill rephrase my first post to reflect what I really meant:
Gonna bet you've been a Bama fan since day 1.......of 2010.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:56 pm to HottyToddy7
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Yeah but Danny Etling.
Is he really any worse than Matt Flynn or Matt Mauck?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:02 pm to elposter
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Alabama hasn't really had to put 7 or 8 in the box to stop the run in recent years
They have against LSU.
I know Alabama fans don't want to admit it, but it happens. There was a story on it before last years games where they discussed Alabama's D setting up in a base formation, and cheating up just before the ball was snapped.
The fact is that they'd be stupid not to.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:06 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:LSU has been soft on both lines lately, Bama would be indeed be stupid to not take advantage when the opportunity presents itself.
They have against LSU.
I know Alabama fans don't want to admit it, but it happens. There was a story on it before last years games where they discussed Alabama's D setting up in a base formation, and cheating up just before the ball was snapped.
The fact is that they'd be stupid not to.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:06 pm to bamafan1001
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Great quarterbacks like Deshaun Watson, Cam Newton, Johnny Football, are Bama's kryptonite.
You forgot Jordan Jefferson who beat Saban coached Alabama twice.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:13 pm to RT1941
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Bama would be indeed be stupid to not take advantage when the opportunity presents itself.
Yeah, like whenever LSU lines up in the I-formation.
It is funny looking at all these Alabama fans trying to pretend like Alabama wouldn't cheat up 8 men in the box just before the snap - and yet they're probably the ones putting up all the gifs of Fournette getting tackled in the backfield by safeties.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:17 pm to PinkTigahPrincess
Chick,
Iz ya craaaaazyyyyy ???
You KNOW what kind of reaction starting a thread like this will cause ????
Iz ya craaaaazyyyyy ???
You KNOW what kind of reaction starting a thread like this will cause ????
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Is he really any worse than Matt Flynn or Matt Mauck?
100% yes
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:47 pm to MetryTyger
It causes Bama fans to start acting like their redneck selves
Funny thing I have heard was Bama was still a Top Program between Stallings and Saban?
Funny thing I have heard was Bama was still a Top Program between Stallings and Saban?
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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100% yes
Here are some stats:
Matt Mauck, career:
58.6% pass comp.
7.2 ypp
2:1 TD/int
2.3 ypr
Matt Flynn, career:
56.4% pass comp.
5.63 ypp
2.38:1 TD/int
2.7 ypr
Danny Etling, career:
59.4% pass comp.
7.9 ypp
2.2:1 TD/int
1.1 ypr
Keep in mind that Mauck and Flynn's stats include their senior year.
So the answer to my question is clearly, 100% no.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:12 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Danny Etling vs Ranked Teams (4 games)
53.3%
3 TD / 2 INT
6.0 YPA
109.43 Pass Rating
157.8 YPG
Etling is a decent game manager who doesn't run well and doesn't have a good arm. Both Flynn and Mauck had running abilities.
Matt Mauck wasn't even the full-time QB until his senior year. His senior year he had a 64% completion %, 7.9 YPA, 148.2 Rating and had a 2-1 TD to INT ratio.
Etling is what he is.
53.3%
3 TD / 2 INT
6.0 YPA
109.43 Pass Rating
157.8 YPG
Etling is a decent game manager who doesn't run well and doesn't have a good arm. Both Flynn and Mauck had running abilities.
Matt Mauck wasn't even the full-time QB until his senior year. His senior year he had a 64% completion %, 7.9 YPA, 148.2 Rating and had a 2-1 TD to INT ratio.
Etling is what he is.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:14 pm to PinkTigahPrincess
Great post, keep them coming.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:20 pm to PinkTigahPrincess
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PinkTigahPrincess
Sheesh. Girls.
Honey, you just worry about learning how to make biscuits, and clean the grout and you won't have to worry about no footballs.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Danny Etling vs Ranked Teams (4 games)
Well, to make your point, you'll have to include Mauck and Flynn's numbers - not to include their senior years.
I'm thinking Etling's passing numbers will be better, but his rushing numbers will be worse - long and short: Mauck and Flynn were not significantly better than Etling.
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Etling is a decent game manager
That's all that was said of Mauck and Flynn during their careers at LSU.
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Both Flynn and Mauck had running abilities
2.3-2.7 vs 1.1 ypc, meh.
Just face it, Etling is about on par with LSU's last two NC winning QBs - neither of which represent the best QBs at LSU since 2000 (Russell and Mettenberger).
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:29 pm to HottyToddy7
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Yeah but Danny Etling.
Danny Etling vs Swag Kelly head to head
Danny Etling 19/28 204 7.3 1 1 57.8
Chad Kelly 20/33 218 6.6 1 2 44.4
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:29 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
You sure ain't no Leadbelly even with stealing his name
Just go over to Biscuits & Buns on Banks for your biscuits honey
Just go over to Biscuits & Buns on Banks for your biscuits honey
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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They have against LSU.
No, they haven't.
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Alabama totally shut down Leonard Fournette and the LSU rushing attack Saturday en route to taking control of the SEC West. The longtime Heisman leader had just 31 yards on 19 carries.
The narrative emerging from the game is that Alabama sold out to stop the run and that LSU failed to adjust, only throwing 19 passes.
But that's not how I remembered it, so I went back and looked. Did Alabama really load the box (the middle 25 yards of the field within eight yards of the line of scrimmage, roughly) with extra defenders?
The purpose of loading the box is to outnumber the offense at the point of attack, creating an unblocked defender. Against a typical I-formation run, there are seven potential blockers nearby (the QB does not block, and the tailback is going to run).
Seven defenders in the box is an advantageous alignment for such an offense. Eight means an unblocked defender, but that's a common look, and running backs can often make the eighth defender miss. Nine defenders in the box against seven blockers is very difficult to run against, and teams have to be able to counter by throwing the football.
So Alabama loaded up the box, right? Let's go to the tape.
I went through each LSU play before the Tide went up by 20 points in the fourth quarter. I also excluded plays in which LSU was using three or more receivers or facing third-and-long, because the threat of the run is reduced in those situations. I removed goal line, because that's a different calculus.
Uh, no. In the 16 plays examined (yes, LSU only had 45 offensive snaps), Alabama brought an extra defender into the box just six times and never brought two extra.
#Bama in the box on 17 Fournette carries (2 goal snaps excluded) 9 men: 1 8: 5 7: 6 6: 5 UA had at least 7 in box each time #LSU was in I
— Ross Dellenger (@DellengerAdv) November 9, 2015
Alabama did not gamble or sell out to stop LSU's run. It did not invite LSU to throw. It did not outnumber LSU at the point of attack, but outmuscled a very good LSU line. Plays like the one below were common. Here, all but one LSU blocker was pushed into the backfield:
It's also worth noting that LSU was without its starting tight end and fullback, and those reserves were whipped worse than the offensive line.
LSU fans are asking why the Tigers didn't make adjustments and throw the football, but throwing into these looks would have likely yielded even worse results. LSU did not have a numbers advantage in the passing game.
The idea that Alabama loaded the box all night and that LSU failed to adjust is false.
Alabama's front seven is well-coached and disciplined, but mostly, just amazingly talented. Alabama recruits much better than any other team in the country, and that's especially true in this area. The Tide have several backups who would be starting for other elite teams.
If LSU cannot run on Alabama, can anyone?
Game film doesn't lie
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:35 pm to PinkTigahPrincess
quote:7 is the normal number in the box, btw. Football geniuses here. And yes we primarily used 7 in the box to totally shut down LSU's running game the last 2 years
I think Bama will have to adjust and not put 7 or 8 in the box to stop the run
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:38 pm to narddogg81
Just look the numbers on teams who run nickel coverage as their base coverage
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:47 pm
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