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In a nutshell, what happened?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:03 am
I haven't really kept up with the story as Ole Miss wasn't a school or team on my radar. I remember the whole Tunsil - bong video that appeared on the day of the NFL Draft.
Was that the catalyst?
1.) Was Ole Miss paying players?
2.) What does Houston Nutt, a former coach, have to do with all this? How is he even involved?
3.) Escort services - were they for Freeze or was Freeze getting them for the players or recruits?
4.) In all seriousness, what is Ole Miss looking at? Bowl bands? Loss of scholarships?
Was that the catalyst?
1.) Was Ole Miss paying players?
2.) What does Houston Nutt, a former coach, have to do with all this? How is he even involved?
3.) Escort services - were they for Freeze or was Freeze getting them for the players or recruits?
4.) In all seriousness, what is Ole Miss looking at? Bowl bands? Loss of scholarships?
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:04 am to Forkbeard3777
I appreciate this thread because I haven't been following at all
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:06 am to Forkbeard3777
"Nutshell" or "Nutt's Hell?"
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:07 am to Forkbeard3777
Ole Miss paid players, Tunsil admitted it on draft night in the most amazing fashion ever
Freeze called reporters to blame Nutt for the NCAA issues, and Nutt sued Ole Miss
We don't know who the escorts were for yet
Ole Miss is getting the practical DP. They'll get hit with big scholly losses and more bowl ban, most likely. It'll be an unattractive job for any serious coach for at least another season, probably longer. Will require total rebuild at that point.
What's interesting is that the dumbasses at Ole Miss are still sticking to the "Hugh did everything right in compliance" argument, which is laughably false. That narrative makes me think the escort stuff does touch on the NCAA stuff, and that as a result, they're in the difficult position of being unable to throw Hugh under the bus for the NCAA stuff.
Freeze called reporters to blame Nutt for the NCAA issues, and Nutt sued Ole Miss
We don't know who the escorts were for yet
Ole Miss is getting the practical DP. They'll get hit with big scholly losses and more bowl ban, most likely. It'll be an unattractive job for any serious coach for at least another season, probably longer. Will require total rebuild at that point.
What's interesting is that the dumbasses at Ole Miss are still sticking to the "Hugh did everything right in compliance" argument, which is laughably false. That narrative makes me think the escort stuff does touch on the NCAA stuff, and that as a result, they're in the difficult position of being unable to throw Hugh under the bus for the NCAA stuff.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:08 am to Forkbeard3777
Hugh
Nutt
Hookers
Nutt
Hookers
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:09 am to Pettifogger
Les Miles is gonna come in and turn Ole Miss into a powerhouse in 5 years. Bookmark this shite now.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:10 am to Forkbeard3777
1.) Was Ole Miss paying players?
Just the Assistant AD arranging meetings with boosters to get them paid.
2.) What does Houston Nutt, a former coach, have to do with all this? How is he even involved?
He has a lawsuit for defamation b/c ole miss said all their woes in the 1st NOA were on his watch which apparently it wasn't true. All he wanted was a public apology. Ole miss did not deliver.
3.) Escort services - were they for Freeze or was Freeze getting them for the players or recruits?
The MILLION dollar question.
4.) In all seriousness, what is Ole Miss looking at? Bowl bands? Loss of scholarships?
All of the above and then some.
Just the Assistant AD arranging meetings with boosters to get them paid.
2.) What does Houston Nutt, a former coach, have to do with all this? How is he even involved?
He has a lawsuit for defamation b/c ole miss said all their woes in the 1st NOA were on his watch which apparently it wasn't true. All he wanted was a public apology. Ole miss did not deliver.
3.) Escort services - were they for Freeze or was Freeze getting them for the players or recruits?
The MILLION dollar question.
4.) In all seriousness, what is Ole Miss looking at? Bowl bands? Loss of scholarships?
All of the above and then some.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:10 am to Forkbeard3777
Basically, Ole Miss tried to bust a Nutt, and it blew all over their faces.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:10 am to Pettifogger
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Ole Miss is getting the practical DP
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It'll be an unattractive job for any serious coach for at least another season
Conflicting statements brahPosted on 7/21/17 at 9:10 am to DoubleDown
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Les Miles is gonna come in and turn Ole Miss into a powerhouse in 5 years. Bookmark this shite now.
I don't know about powerhouse
But I think it's a solid fit and would provide the stability they'd want after the smoke clears from the demolition
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:11 am to Forkbeard3777
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Bowl bands?
Unfortunately, yes. It's looking like they're only going to be allowed to send their band to bowl games for the next 4-5 years.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:11 am to Forkbeard3777
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In a NUTTSHELL, what happened?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:12 am to AbitaFan08
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Unfortunately, yes. It's looking like they're only going to be allowed to send their band to bowl games for the next 4-5 years.
I tried to think of something clever, but couldn't. Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:13 am to Cdawg
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2.) What does Houston Nutt, a former coach, have to do with all this? How is he even involved?
He has a lawsuit for defamation b/c ole miss said all their woes in the 1st NOA were on his watch which apparently it wasn't true. All he wanted was a public apology. Ole miss did not deliver.
Also it was Nutt's lawyer who discovered the escort call when reviewing Hugh's phone records from January 2016
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:14 am to Cdawg
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1.) Was Ole Miss paying players?
Just the Assistant AD arranging meetings with boosters to get them paid.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:14 am to magildachunks
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Basically, Ole Miss tried to bust a Nutt, and it blew all over their faces.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 9:15 am
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:14 am to Forkbeard3777
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4.) In all seriousness, what is Ole Miss looking at? Bowl bands? Loss of scholarships?
If it's found out the Ole Miss administration had a part in this trying to cover it up it will be a gigantic penalty. I don't think we'll ever see the SMU death penalty again though.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:14 am to More beer please
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Hugh
Nutt
Hookers
Someone should modify this gif with those 3 items.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:14 am to Forkbeard3777
Here's the NUTTshell
Ole Miss is at the end of a very lengthy NCAA case. They have self imposed a bowl ban and scholarship reductions, and are facing the "Lack of Institutional Control" that will most definitely make the penalties severe.
Prior to the 2016 recruiting class, Hugh Freeze and Ole Miss apparently orchestrated a campaign of disinformation about the NCAA case. "This is all the previous coach's fault" was the theme. The previous coach was Houston Nutt.
When the actual allegations came out, it was found that the vast majority (IIRC 15 of 18) off the allegations were under Freeze, not Nutt.
Nutt hired the former general counsel for Wal Mart, and filed a FOIA request for Freeze's phone records. Then he filed a federal lawsuit against Freeze and Ole Miss alleging that this disinformation campaign cost him opportunities for a new job.
One of the phone calls was to a Tampa-area escort agency. It was a one minute phone call, he was in Tampa recruiting at the time. It was first dismissed as a wrong number, but after Ole Miss looked into it, they felt that there was a pattern of phone calls that resulted in his termination/resignation.
Ole Miss still has to face the NCAA in the coming months.
Ole Miss is at the end of a very lengthy NCAA case. They have self imposed a bowl ban and scholarship reductions, and are facing the "Lack of Institutional Control" that will most definitely make the penalties severe.
Prior to the 2016 recruiting class, Hugh Freeze and Ole Miss apparently orchestrated a campaign of disinformation about the NCAA case. "This is all the previous coach's fault" was the theme. The previous coach was Houston Nutt.
When the actual allegations came out, it was found that the vast majority (IIRC 15 of 18) off the allegations were under Freeze, not Nutt.
Nutt hired the former general counsel for Wal Mart, and filed a FOIA request for Freeze's phone records. Then he filed a federal lawsuit against Freeze and Ole Miss alleging that this disinformation campaign cost him opportunities for a new job.
One of the phone calls was to a Tampa-area escort agency. It was a one minute phone call, he was in Tampa recruiting at the time. It was first dismissed as a wrong number, but after Ole Miss looked into it, they felt that there was a pattern of phone calls that resulted in his termination/resignation.
Ole Miss still has to face the NCAA in the coming months.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:15 am to Forkbeard3777
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1.) Was Ole Miss paying players?
Probably, but this isn't this issue in the Freeze stuff from yesterday.
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2.) What does Houston Nutt, a former coach, have to do with all this? How is he even involved?
They initially blamed him for the vast majority of the violations publicly. Turns out that wasn't true. He had an anti-defamation clause as part of his buy out and asked for an apology from Ole Miss. They refused, he sued them for defamation.
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3.) Escort services - were they for Freeze or was Freeze getting them for the players or recruits?
We don't know exactly. Stay tuned.
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4.) In all seriousness, what is Ole Miss looking at? Bowl bands? Loss of scholarships?
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