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If you are up by 13 with 6 minutes left, all the momentum is with your opponent.

Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:29 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:29 am
Why are you running the hurry up,no huddle. . .snapping the ball with 20 secs on the play clock?

And throwing the ball?

Those giving Rosen so much credit, need to consider how much MORE A&M lost that game than the Bruins won it.

Sumlin is so amazingly awful
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:31 am to
Breaking news!!!
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64950 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:32 am to
I think most people understand that A&M lost that game more than UCLA won it. The Aggies were up 44-10 late into the third quarter.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5168 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:33 am to
Wait! Did A&M lose that game?!
Posted by DonaldDuckworth
Florida
Member since Jul 2017
1508 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:55 am to
Well, clearly I'm an idiot but this is a product of being scarred for life watching Tubby play keep away and give away a couple of games. Playing not to lose instead of playing to win. I remember him instructing the punter, in two separate games, to run out of the back of the endzone. While technically the right move, it screams fear to me. So I don't mind the approach on its face. However, they didn't have to run pace to do this. AND, Mond couldn't hit the broad side of a barn so having him throw was a very low % shot. With a more reliable QB, and milking the clock a bit, I wouldn't have minded the throws.

HOWEVER, all this did was create little bit of time. Rosen rose the f*** up. Until they were down 1 score, nobody believed they could actually do it. That lead felt really safe to me. I almost didn't turn the game on after half time.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:57 am to
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Those giving Rosen so much credit, need to consider how much MORE A&M lost that game than the Bruins won it.


You still have to make enough plays to score 4 TDs in a quarter.

Even with A&M's shittastic approach to that quarter, UCLA still had to go win it.

Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:00 am to
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Well, clearly I'm an idiot but this is a product of being scarred for life watching Tubby play keep away and give away a couple of games.


There were several times we made games close that shouldn't have been but I don't remember many times at all that it actually cost us a game.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25171 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Well, clearly I'm an idiot but this is a product of being scarred for life watching Tubby play keep away and give away a couple of games. Playing not to lose instead of playing to win. I remember him instructing the punter, in two separate games, to run out of the back of the endzone. While technically the right move, it screams fear to me. So I don't mind the approach on its face. However, they didn't have to run pace to do this. AND, Mond couldn't hit the broad side of a barn so having him throw was a very low % shot. With a more reliable QB, and milking the clock a bit, I wouldn't have minded the throws.

HOWEVER, all this did was create little bit of time. Rosen rose the f*** up. Until they were down 1 score, nobody believed they could actually do it. That lead felt really safe to me. I almost didn't turn the game on after half time.




A few throws to keep the other team honest I can see. I do think a higher dose of running plays would have been in order. It was a foolish decision to have a QB that was throwing poorly throw so much down the stretch. Its one of the more baffling decisions I've seen in college football over the years and we had Houston Nutt as our HC.

One thing I whole heartedly agree with was the poor decision to keep snapping the ball quickly. Let the play clock run down to 5 before snapping the ball just a few more times and UCLA never gets the chance to win the game.

A&M has the talent to win, and win big, but can the team recover from that loss?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:04 am to
A&M has the coaches to lose and lose big. Which do you think takes place?
Posted by DonaldDuckworth
Florida
Member since Jul 2017
1508 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:07 am to
quote:

There were several times we made games close that shouldn't have been but I don't remember many times at all that it actually cost us a game.


There was at least one for sure...and it was one of the 2 where we had the punter run out of the back of the end zone on purpose. I don't remember the opponent...have tried to evict it from my memory. I'm an Auburn fan so I can handle losing...but going out like cowards, that's what really burned me up about it
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25171 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:09 am to
quote:

A&M has the coaches to lose and lose big. Which do you think takes place?




I can't argue with you buddy. That was perhaps the poorest coached quarter of football I've seen and this from someone who watched a season of John L. Smith in action.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:13 am to
I knew Sumlin was a shitty coach when LSU played them back in 2012. LSU put in a 3-2-6 defense, and Sumlin still passed the ball every down. I wonder if it ever occurred to him to include an offensive package that kills time off the clock.

That being said, there is no safe lead with Chavis, that prevent defense gives up a solid 10-15 yards with ease and allows the other team to creep back in. It cost LSU 2 Bama games and the bowl game against Clemson. I can't tell you how many other times LSU got out to a big lead, only for the other team to come back and either pull out the win or come awfully close to winning.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:31 am to
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I can't tell you how many other times LSU got out to a big lead, only for the other team to come back and either pull out the win or come awfully close to winning.

I can:
Miss State 2009
UGA 2009
Arkansas 2009
Penn State 2009
UNC 2010
Alabama 2010
Alabama 2012
Arkansas 2012
Clemson 2012
UGA 2013
Ole Miss 2013
Florida 2014
Ole Miss 2014
Alabama 2014
Texas A&M 2014
Notre Dame 2014
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41150 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Florida 2014


LSU was never up more than 3 points in this game and you were losing after the 1st quarter and at halftime. Florida choked this game away, not the other way around.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 12:38 pm to
LSU didn't have the lead in 2010 against Bama until the 4 quarter. And they never had a big lead against UGA in 2009.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:22 pm to
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There was at least one for sure...and it was one of the 2 where we had the punter run out of the back of the end zone on purpose.


I'm not saying it's impossible you're wrong but I'd love for you to try and figure it out because that is something I am almost certain I would remember.
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3028 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Sumlin is so amazingly awful

They are entertaining
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:40 pm to
Up 13 with 6 minutes left.

You forgot a key piece to this cluster fricked puzzle. A&M has ran for 300 yards. Hahaha

Jesus. All you need are two first downs and the game is over if you run every snap. Even IF UCLA has its time outs.

They literally could have ran into a wall, but so long as they milk every second on the clock there is a 90% chance you win the game without gaining a single yard.

If you get two first downs, the game is frickin over.

Sumlin plays to look good, not to win.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:46 pm to
That Aggy loss is the worst I've ever seen in football, and being an Arkansas fan I've seen some doozies.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79975 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:07 pm to
Here's some irony for you.

The winning coach in the greatest comeback of all time in NCAA Football: John L. Smith

The losing coach in the 2nd-greatest comeback of all time in NCAA Football: Kevin Sumlin
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