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re: If Lane Kiffin became Alabama's next head coach...

Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:29 pm to
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They aren't going to hire someone to lead the program that has been an utter failure everywhere he's been with the exception of as OC with bama.


He was pretty successful as an OC with USC, too.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:31 pm to
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He was pretty successful as an OC with USC, too.



And he brought a lot of energy to UT for that short stint. he's also a hell of a recruiter.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:32 pm to
I would not wish Kiffin on any school other then those folks down in Austin, and even then I'd feel dirty about doing so.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:54 pm to
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he won't. Alabama is at too high a level right now to get anything other than a proven, top notch head coach. If they do end up hiring a coordinator, it's going to be one with a proven track record like kirby. They aren't going to hire someone to lead the program that has been an utter failure everywhere he's been with the exception of as OC with bama.
I agree, but lets dive deeper. I have always been the one that thinks the AD will be fielding calls from all over the country when Saban retires, I mean who wouldn't want a cupboard as stocked as Bama's. The thing is, what elite coach is out there that can man the ship? Urbs is the only other coach close to him, maybe Harbaugh.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:59 pm to
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Lane Kiffin

quote:

fear

Posted by FourThreeForty
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Eric4Tide
Attalla, Alabama
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:18 pm to
Hire Bert. For real.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:19 pm to
After this season Bama isn't going to want him around
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:25 pm to
Please let this happen.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:38 pm to
Weren't some of you the same people arguing with Tennessee fans that Kiffin's failure at USC had much more to do with the sanctions that the Trojans were under?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:42 pm to
Don't know who was doing what. I just know what I have seen. What I have seen is, he has not proven to be even a decent HC yet. He is a Will Muschamp. Great coordinator but not even considered a decent HC.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:43 pm to
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If Lane Kiffin became Alabama's next head coach...

Dear God,

Please let this happen.

Please don't let me laugh too long and too loud when Kiffin gets those inbred clowns their long deserved death penalty.

Amen
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:46 pm to
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Don't know who was doing what. I just know what I have seen. What I have seen is, he has not proven to be even a decent HC yet. He is a Will Muschamp. Great coordinator but not even considered a decent HC.
Well if things work out for Muschamp he is going to be at the top of a lot of lists this offseason.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:49 pm to
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Well if things work out for Muschamp he is going to be at the top of a lot of lists this offseason.


Doubt it. You can only hope. If an AD didn't already notice that Muschamp knows D, he should probably be fired.....just like thinking because kiffin is a good OC then that must make him a good HC.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:53 pm to
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What I have seen is, he has not proven to be even a decent HC yet.


He was 28-15 in 4 years at USC. That's at minimum "decent", especially given the crippling sanctions they were under. Tennessee fans absolutely LOVED the guy right up to the moment he left. They told us all how great he was going to be.

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He is a Will Muschamp.

Muschamp inherited a better situation at UF than Kiffin did at USC, yet Will went 28-21 at UF in 4 years (lower winning % than Kiffin).

Compare Kiffin's 4 years at USC to other "good" college coaches and their first 4 years at a school:

Les Miles - 28-21 at Ok State (worse winning % than Kiffin at USC)
Gary Patterson - 32-17 at TCU (worse winning % than Kiffin at USC)
Steve Sarkisian - 26-25 at Washington (worse winning % than Kiffin at USC)

I'm not saying Kiffin is ever going to be great, but he is certainly better than Mushcamp was and should be classified better than "decent".
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:54 pm to
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Doubt it. You can only hope. If an AD didn't already notice that Muschamp knows D, he should probably be fired.....just like thinking because kiffin is a good OC then that must make him a good HC.
But you aren't taking into account the pool of candidates. There aren't a ton of great coaches just waiting to be snapped up. People will give Muschamp the benefit of doubt because of the state Meyer left Florida in. He and Lane are both high on people's lists. They may not want to go to certain places, but they will be contacted.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:58 pm to
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the head coaching candidates for the Tide, once Saban leaves, will be a list of the truly elite head coaches in college football, like Gary Patterson, Jimbo Fisher, Bob Stoops, David Shaw, etc.


maybe, maybe not. I guess you don't remember past Alabama head coach searches. after Bryant, after stallings.

hiring a HC is all about timing. many of the coaches you speak of have a great gig where they are now and would just use their name to get a raise from their present school.

following a legend has been the "kiss of death" in many a coaches career and at any level.
Posted by justausedcarguy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:58 pm to
Kiffin or Dabo.....

Either way, its gonna be fun.
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:01 pm to
If Kiffin becomes Bama's HC that program will be in shambles in 5 years, probqnly because of NCAA violations.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:03 pm to
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And he brought a lot of energy to UT for that short stint. he's also a hell of a recruiter.


Yes and no...more than half of his recruits were gone within 2 seasons.
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