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I don't understand why A&M's defense sucks
Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:28 am
Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:28 am
A&M doesn't lack talent there. I just looked through the last 4 recruiting classes and identified guys on the roster and starters. Lots of 4 stars and high 3 stars and a 5 star. It's not like they're playing 2 stars and low 3 star guys. It can't all be Chavis' fault, either. He wasn't anywhere near this bad at LSU even with depleted/inexperienced talent.
How can a guy like Daylon Mack dominate in HS and at the all-star game and just disappear? How is their secondary loaded with 4 star corners and safeties getting eaten alive by UCLA?
I could point to their position coaches but they just hired Ron Cooper to coach their DBs and he's pretty good yet their DBs suck. I can't figure out WTF is wrong.
How can a guy like Daylon Mack dominate in HS and at the all-star game and just disappear? How is their secondary loaded with 4 star corners and safeties getting eaten alive by UCLA?
I could point to their position coaches but they just hired Ron Cooper to coach their DBs and he's pretty good yet their DBs suck. I can't figure out WTF is wrong.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 3:36 am
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:35 am to rmnldr
They have no depth because of coaching. The truth of the matter is depth comes from coaching after a guy gets there.
Just to say also recruiting is an inexact science. It's why Texas sucks also. I feel strongly that Texas recruits are more advanced and less talented than other areas in the sec.
A&M lost because they didn't have the depth on defense to keep thier 1s fresh. I Would know. I'm an arkansas fan. This is the first year we have had a 2 deep at LB in the bert years.
Just to say also recruiting is an inexact science. It's why Texas sucks also. I feel strongly that Texas recruits are more advanced and less talented than other areas in the sec.
A&M lost because they didn't have the depth on defense to keep thier 1s fresh. I Would know. I'm an arkansas fan. This is the first year we have had a 2 deep at LB in the bert years.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:37 am to rmnldr
Texas football is overrated.
I don't think that state believes in defense. Too much BIG12 in them.
I don't think that state believes in defense. Too much BIG12 in them.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:38 am to russellvillehog
Where do they lack depth though? They go 2-3 deep at every spot with 3 and 4 star guys, not unlike other SEC programs.
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:45 am to rmnldr
Thier D line and corner lacked depth. They played true freshman for most of the game on both spots.
Freshman can supplant big time players. They don't make leaders, and game winning plays usually.
Freshman can supplant big time players. They don't make leaders, and game winning plays usually.
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 3:50 am to Gnarkill
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Texas football is overrated.
This. They don't play defense in high school and it's carrying over to college. If a player makes a single tackle in a high school game they give him 5 stars.
Then you have big money boosters who will feed a college coach to the wolves if they don't recruit that "5-star" player, by God!
Even if the coaches realize a player is overrated they have to take him. Because starz.
Just look at Texas recruiting and how many "busts" they have.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:05 am to dbeck
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This. They don't play defense in high school and it's carrying over to college. If a player makes a single tackle in a high school game they give him 5 stars.
Then you have big money boosters who will feed a college coach to the wolves if they don't recruit that "5-star" player, by God!
Even if the coaches realize a player is overrated they have to take him. Because starz.
Just look at Texas recruiting and how many "busts" they have.
This has a lot of truth to it. They don't play defense in high school. I'd rather have a high 3 star from LA than a 4 star from tx on defense.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:10 am to rmnldr
Systemic overrating of Texas HS football defensive players.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:22 am to Warrior Poet
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Systemic overrating of Texas HS football defensive players.
So does that mean the coaching staff is knowingly signing overrated talent? You can look at someone's film and see if they're worth a damn.
Or do you think it ties into what the Arkansas poster said about pressure to sign 5 stars? Either way it doesn't make much sense and isn't sufficient enough for my liking. Even with recruits outside of Texas they're not getting a return on investment.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:25 am to rmnldr
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Even with recruits outside of Texas they're not getting a return on investment.
Look at the defenses under Slocum and Sherrill vs the OFFENSES under Slocum and Sherrill.
Sumlin's team identity is fast-paced offense. Buddy Ryan couldn't field a top defense working under Sumlin.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:35 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Auburn and Ohio State were both in the top 20 in plays per game and both were in the top 10 in scoring defenses. I'm not saying that TOP/plays per game doesn't matter but it's possible to be fast paced on offense and still have a good defense.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:37 am to rmnldr
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Auburn and Ohio State were both in the top 20 in plays per game and both were in the top 10 in scoring defenses. I'm not saying that TOP/plays per game doesn't matter but it's possible to be fast paced on offense and still have a good defense.
RUN
BASED
OFFENSE
Trayveon Williams had 2 carries the entire fourth quarter.
Keith Ford had 2 carries the entire fourth quarter.
At the start of the 4th, the game was 44-17. In what fricking universe does your running back who has gone over 200 yards already get 2 fricking carries when you're up 27?!
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:47 am to CGSC Lobotomy
That ties into TOP.
Arkansas was first in TOP in 2016 and their defense wasn't great.
Auburn had the 85th best average TOP and finished with a top 10 defense. TOP matters, I agree, but that can't be the only reason A&M can't field a good defense.
Arkansas was first in TOP in 2016 and their defense wasn't great.
Auburn had the 85th best average TOP and finished with a top 10 defense. TOP matters, I agree, but that can't be the only reason A&M can't field a good defense.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:54 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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In what fricking universe does your running back who has gone over 200 yards already get 2 fricking carries when you're up 27?!
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:18 am to rmnldr
Watching our players at the end, I don't understand. It's like they have no conditioning? At least this year ended early
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:25 am to Gnarkill
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Texas football is overrated.
I don't think that state believes in defense. Too much BIG12 in them.
Texas high school football is basketball on grass. Texas high school defenders routinely excel when they leave the state to play for programs like LSU that emphasize defense.
Some of LSU's best defensive players are Texans. I'm convinced those same defenders would not have learned to be as good of defenders as they are if they had stayed in state.
Because then they would be surrounded by the same players they grew up playing basketball on grass with.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:27 am to rmnldr
Its because they practice against a basketball offense. Cant get hard if you dont practice hard.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:28 am to TigersOfGeauxld
I agree with everything you said, and I still can't believe they came back. What a joke.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:29 am to houstonag
Being from Louisiana and talking shite about LSU has been biting me in the arse for 5 years now. Time to stop
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:30 am to rmnldr
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e wasn't anywhere near this bad at LSU even with depleted/inexperienced
Yes he was. He blew many a lead.
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