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re: I can't help but shake my head when I see the East versus West Arguments,
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:17 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:17 am to Crowknowsbest
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Less than 25% of most teams were in college three years ago.
You're leaning on a one year sample size because it's, literally, the only argument you have. Even then, the rest of the West was better than the East.
You have no leg to stand on.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:20 am to Crowknowsbest
Those East wins were against the bottom 3 teams in the West, sans UGA beating a crippled AU (an ugly win too), and UF beating LSS
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:21 am to RB10
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You're leaning on a one year sample size because it's, literally, the only argument you have. Even then, the rest of the West was better than the East.
Those are also the most applicable results to the teams fielded in 2017.
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You have no leg to stand on.
I have that leg to stand on, and then looking at my particular team, Georgia is 4-2 vs. the West in the last three years, including Alabama. Georgia has won 9 out of 11 games against its permanent west opponent. Georgia has beaten 5/7 west teams in their most recent matchup.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:22 am to lewis and herschel
Well this post was stupid
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:23 am to Rhymenoceros
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Those East wins were against the bottom 3 teams in the West, sans UGA beating a crippled AU (an ugly win too), and UF beating LSS
Pretty much looks like a round robin of shite football to me.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:23 am to Crowknowsbest
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Those are also the most applicable results to the teams fielded in 2017
And those applicable results show that they aren't "roughly" the same. They show the rest of the West is better.
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I have that leg to stand on, and then looking at my particular team, Georgia is 4-2 vs. the West in the last three years, including Alabama. Georgia has won 9 out of 11 games against its permanent west opponent. Georgia has beaten 5/7 west teams in their most recent matchup.
Congrats. None of this makes the East equal to the West during any recent timeframe.
You're trying way too hard and it's kind of sad.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:25 am to RB10
3-5 years ago, the West was way better. No argument from me there.
Right now, nothing about the West is special.
Right now, nothing about the West is special.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:25 am to Crowknowsbest
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Right now, nothing about the West is special.
It's still better than the East.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:26 am to Crowknowsbest
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3-5 years ago, the West was way better. No argument from me there.
Right now, nothing about the West is special.
Just saving and book-marking for later
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:29 am to RB10
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It's still better than the East.
Marginally. The East does have Kentucky and Vanderbilt in it, which will always hold back it's top to bottom depth. Ole Miss is headed that way though, so that looks like it will level out a little.
LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, A&M, and Florida are all in a roughly similar spot. A couple will make a move, a couple will fall. You could throw Arky in with them I guess.
Everyone else is pretty average.
There just aren't any standouts out other than Alabama right now where either division is something to brag about.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:30 am to Crowknowsbest
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Everyone else is pretty average.
Well the West must be a little higher average. 25-11 and all.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:31 am
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:31 am to Crowknowsbest
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Right now, nothing about the West is special.
Last season was also probably the worst year of QBs for the West from top to bottom. That likely changes significantly this year.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:32 am to RB10
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Well the West must be a little higher average. 25-11 and all.
OK. I'm looking at the teams as they are right now.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:33 am to Rhymenoceros
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Last season was also probably the worst year of QBs for the West from top to bottom. That likely changes significantly this year.
You could say the same about the East. All but 1 starter returns (UT).
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:33 am to Crowknowsbest
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OK. I'm looking at the teams as they are right now.
No, you aren't. You're clinging to a one year sample size when there is much more data that would much more accurately reflect the current situation available.
Just let it go.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:36 am to RB10
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You're clinging to a one year sample size when there is much more data that would much more accurately reflect the current situation available
Why would results from 2-3 years ago more accurately reflect the current situation?
25% of every team's roster turns over year-to-year.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:37 am to lewis and herschel
Bama, LSU, and AU are all better than any team from the East. Btw, UGA isn't the best team in the East. I would put UF above them and possibly UT right beside them.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:38 am to Crowknowsbest
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Why would results from 2-3 years ago more accurately reflect the current situation?
25% of every team's roster turns over year-to-year.
You're asking why more data points would make a more accurate projection?
Solid.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:38 am to AU_251
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SU, and AU are all better than any team from the East.
LSU lost to Florida last season
AU lost to UGA last season
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:39 am to RB10
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You're asking why more data points would make a more accurate projection?
Solid.
I'm saying that so many variables have changed since those data points were recorded that they are hardly applicable.
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