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re: I believe football is dying.

Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:12 pm to
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???? A stick and a helmet? I can see more expensive than basketball but not near as expensive as football.


No. That's not how it works.

Lacrosse operates a lot like soccer. If you want to play at a high level, or even a decently high level, somebody's (ie the kid's parent) gotta be shelling out some $$$$$ just to be on the team.

Football is the most expensive (except for hockey) equipment wise, but most kids play for free (or close to it) at their high school where equipment is provided for them.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:18 pm to
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that is shifting to the millennials who are much more entitlement oriented. they're asking what football is going to do for them instead of the other way around.


You're right. We should just blindly donate to our alma mater or football program of choice.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:20 pm to
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it's more than just tv. it's millennials. they're just not as fanatical about it. even when they're at the game, they're keeping an eye on social media. when they can't do that, they leave


I'd say social media is becoming more of a Gen X and baby boomer thing. Out of everyone I know, millenials are least likely to have social media or maybe they have accounts but rarely if ever use them.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:51 pm to
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Liberals and contact sports is why, if true.


not that you're wrong because you aren't as I already pointed out here..

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It's not that REAL Americans don't continue to love football it's just that the gaping a-hole element of our society loves to denigrate and destroy what we love.


there is the MADD element out there, the mothers(and other dimwits) who are against ANYTHING that might hurt "the babies" and therefore it must be BANNED BANNED BANNED.

You know, like they want to ban automobiles...

(oh wait,, yes they are simpletons but their knees jerk all the same)
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2849 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:02 pm to
Football is just in a weird transition from the sport of gladiators sacrificing their bodies to protected and flashy athletes enhanced by technology. The NFL and NCAA will produce more interest with our next generations by incorporating technological advances. Some of these technologies include localized positioning devices for footballs, which will open up a wide array of new tv graphics, and exoskeleton body protection that will reduce injuries and allow players to stay in the game for longer periods of their lives. Not to mention the new ways to immerse football fans into the game through virtual and augmented reality (hololens).
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
1008 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:04 pm to
Football won't exist in 50 years.
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
1008 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:05 pm to
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Liberals and contact sports is why, if true.


Brain damage-causing concussions are a figment of the liberal media's imagination, baw!



You people are morons. Read a fricking book.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78317 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:20 pm to
When I was a kid going to the big LSU game was the biggest deal ever. Now, kids have so many options. I told Pimp Jr I would let him use my tickets next year because he's old enough to drive and he said he only goes because it's "our time together" and he really doesn't think his friends care much. Sure they like the atmosphere and tailgating of a big game, but who wants to see the crap games or the day games or the games with bad weather or....

There was this 360 camera thing in Tiger Stadium during the 2014 season. It was during the MSU game when they beat LSU for the first time since the 90's. The people next to me sold their six seats to a bunch of coeds from MSU. When I saw the photo, every single girl was looking down at their iphones while all the old timers were watching the game with life or death expressions on their face.

I think a generational shift has occurred. With all the games televised, and all the entertainment options available. I'm not sure that kids born in 1990 are going to fill the stands like kids born in 1980 would.I don't think football games are enough for this generation.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:23 pm to
I mean the truth is, going to the games is just not that interesting. Even if you're into it, it's better and more exciting on TV. Unless you have great seats it can be hard to actually follow the game when you're at the game. Plus, during the numerous commercial breaks, you're just sitting there.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78317 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:32 pm to
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I mean the truth is, going to the games is just not that interesting. Even if you're into it, it's better and more exciting on TV.


I agree. I thought I was going to pass the torch. Seems like the kids don't want the torch. They have their own things to do. I hear the same thing from all my friends. The kids just don't care. They don't dislike it, but they aren't wired to devote an entire day to something like that. They like to watch it at home, comment on message boards, talk about it on social media in real time, etc.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:24 am to
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But if you're right about cord cutting, I can definitely see it happening. I had no idea how liberating it would be to cut the cord. I worried about missing shows. Missing games.

I barely miss anything and pay much less money. When I don't have the ability to watch something, I actually don't care. In fact, I'm finding myself becoming less and less interested in watching any kind of TV.
this has been precisely our experience as well. i had no idea. we cut our bill by more than 50% and have lost ZERO content. i lost the convenience of timeshifting cable programming such as espn. even so, i can still watch archived games. i just have to wait until the game is over. with my digital antenna/pvr computer, i can timeshift ota programming. otherwise, everything else is archived over the internet.

we do still care about shows. we just watch 1 episode a day. at that rate, we get way behind on shows but catch up during the breaks. it's great. no worry about cliffhangers.

i can't imagine ever going back to cable.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:32 am to
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I mean the truth is, going to the games is just not that interesting
that was my point all along. the older generations loved/love the atmosphere and soak it up even during the breaks. the kids are on their phones. since there isn't good coverage, they split during halftime while older people stay at the game. older people realize all the trouble and cost of going to a game and stay to get their money's worth. kids need to see who's tweeting about netflix and chill
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39079 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:46 am to
I think you nailed it. I've been saying this for years. Football is a unique sport that only worked in the adolescence of the United States, and among the grandchildren of pioneers. These were hard, proud, manly men that didn't exist, in such large proportion, anywhere else in the world. It continues today out of cultural habit, propelled by an attenuating American manhood.

Today's American men are mostly effette metrosexuals. They'll gravitate toward soccer along with the rest of the world's metros and the women.

Twenty years from now, if it exists at all, football will be to Americans what Rugby is to Englishmen. It might very well be outlawed, or litigated away, as a commercial enterprise.

Many on here will treat you with skepticism, even disdain, but they will be surprised at how quickly football declines.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:49 am to
Is football violent and destructive? Does it feed the most brutal instincts in the deep recesses of the lizard brain? Hell frickING yeah it does. And GOD BLESS football. This is the new Rome and they are our gladiators. Are you not entertained???
Posted by bigman334
Member since Jul 2013
2417 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:52 am to
nah. it's just not interesting to you when your team is not really championship caliber. thats normal
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39079 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:56 am to
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soon we will all be watching the Kardashians while fingerings our assholes. Sad tbh
Posted by morriscat2
tennessee
Member since Jun 2012
1934 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:11 am to
The political elites do not want to destroy football, they simply want to take command and control of it. Have they completely outlawed the tobacco industry? No, because the tax collections from this industry empower the hypocritical elites who claim to be moralist.

With football under their thumb, they can tax it, use it to make public service announcements, and use it to keep the public distracted from what is going on in Washington.

Football is a great sport in the hands of good people. But if the government becomes the caretaker, the sport could morph into something very ugly.
Posted by southarktiger
Member since Aug 2008
748 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:12 am to
It is certainly declining. This topic was discussed at work recently. Growing up the HS team I played for yielded 80 to 90 players every year throughout the 80's today they have 60 players in a good year. The interest is just not there like it used to be. Kids have more options in front of them to choose from and a great many of hem feel it takes too much time and effort to play the sport. Idiot parents have ruined the youth programs here. They have to hire off duty policemen to be present at the youth basketball games because of the parents.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:39 am to
College football has gotten too big, too important, too much money, that has gotten too many corporations involved trying to figure out how to squeeze more dollars out of it.

I long for the day when I can sit down to a college football game and not have to endure one hour of commercials for a three hour game.

Once ESPN's business model is chopped at the knees, it might actually move football back in the direction of amateurism.
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:40 am to
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Today's American men are mostly effette metrosexuals. They'll gravitate toward soccer along with the rest of the world's metros and the women.


Ironically, you are spreading this little-dick drooling idiocy on a thread where most of the people likely enjoy both sports.

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