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re: How would you rank the SEC's Football programs Nationally
Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I'd put LSU and UT in the top 10
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:57 pm to Hawgeye
But we have the most national titles (even without the questionable ones) and most bowl wins (and only USC has more major bowl wins).
Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:57 pm to TigerProwl24
The pups lack of accomplishments the past 30 years have them grasping for straws. A program that has forgot what winning anything substantial feels like, so they try and win message board battles, casting aside the battles between the lines on the field where the real battles are won.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:58 pm to TigerProwl24
what straws are we grasping at here?
Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:58 pm to Hawgeye
quote:Average end of the year rankings is all you can base it on.
Really depends on what factors you weight heavily I guess.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:01 pm to WG_Dawg
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Arkansas is 4-10 (28%) against UGA with only 1 of those wins coming in the last 21 years.
You are correct, kind of like y'all are 13 games in a hole against Bama.
Just curious, did I diss Georgia in my OP, or why are you jumping in here? Or are you a Tennessee fan just posing as a Georgia fan?
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:02 pm to AlabamaAlum07
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But we have the most national titles (even without the questionable ones) and most bowl wins (and only USC has more major bowl wins).
That is a fair argument. As I said, it really depends on what the person making the poll places more weight on.
For me, I would probably have USC as the #1 all time program. You could also make an argument for Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and even Ohio State as well as Alabama.
I agree with what Dawg said earlier, I would probably have Michigan ranked some place in the 6-10 range all time.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:07 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Just curious, did I diss Georgia in my OP, or why are you jumping in here?
your post was a direct reply to a UGA fan. You mentioned "you" several times. Seems like a logical conclusion would be you were talking to/about georgia, wouldn't you say?
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Or are you a Tennessee fan just posing as a Georgia fan?
sshhhhhh I'm trying to keep this alter on the dl
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:08 pm to TigerProwl24
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The pups lack of accomplishments the past 30 years have them grasping for straws. A program that has forgot what winning anything substantial feels like, so they try and win message board battles, casting aside the battles between the lines on the field where the real battles are won
Georgia leads Auburn in all of these categories all time....
Win Pct.
Conference Titles
Bowl Games
Total Wins
Consensus All Americans
Total NFL Draft Picks
First Round NFL Draft Picks
Weeks in AP Poll
Weeks at #1 in AP Poll
Head to Head Series
Auburn leads Georgia in all of these categories all time...
National Titles(1 more)
Bowl Record
Heisman Winners(1 more)
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:09 pm to AlabamaAlum07
quote:There is no other way to compare the teams overall when there are so many different factors people on here want to pick choose to count. Teams are ranked year to year by how good they are compared to everyone else.
Or not.
SEC championships definitely are irrelevant when some teams have been in the conference for years and years longer than others.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:09 pm to td01241
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I have a graduate degree in journalism.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:11 pm to Hawgeye
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Georgia leads Auburn in all of these categories all time....
Win Pct.
Conference Titles
Bowl Games
Total Wins
Consensus All Americans
Total NFL Draft Picks
First Round NFL Draft Picks
Weeks in AP Poll
Weeks at #1 in AP Poll
Head to Head Series
Auburn leads Georgia in all of these categories all time...
National Titles(1 more)
Bowl Record
Heisman Winners(1 more)
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:12 pm to Rabern57
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SEC championships definitely are irrelevant when some teams have been in the conference for years and years longer than others.
Fine, throw out arkansas/sc/miz/atm and all 0 of their combined SEC titles.
Now does that make it more fair?
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:12 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:12 pm to Rabern57
I'm not checking their numbers but here is a site that compared all the AP rankings. Giving 25 points for 1st place and 1 for 25th and totaling them all up.
LINK
1 Ohio State 1040.5 +53.5
2 Michigan 1013.5 +56.5
3 Alabama 1011.5 +22.5
4 Oklahoma 991 -24.5
5 Notre Dame 990 +52.5
6 Southern Cal 897 +102
7 Texas 827 +56
8 Nebraska 801 +18
9 Tennessee 742.5 +60.5
10 Penn State 662.5 +16.5
11 Louisiana State 656.5 +44.5
12 Auburn 644 +90
13 Florida 629.5 +142.5
14 Georgia 624.5 +77
15 UCLA 594.5 +91.5
16 Florida State 584 +40.5
17 Miami (Florida) 560 +49
18 Michigan State 458 +14.5
19 Arkansas 439 +1
20 Georgia Tech 428 +85.5
21 Washington 408.5 +76.5
22 Mississippi 381.5 +35
23 Wisconsin 373 +46
24 Texas A&M 368 +3.5
25 Clemson 350 -2
LINK
1 Ohio State 1040.5 +53.5
2 Michigan 1013.5 +56.5
3 Alabama 1011.5 +22.5
4 Oklahoma 991 -24.5
5 Notre Dame 990 +52.5
6 Southern Cal 897 +102
7 Texas 827 +56
8 Nebraska 801 +18
9 Tennessee 742.5 +60.5
10 Penn State 662.5 +16.5
11 Louisiana State 656.5 +44.5
12 Auburn 644 +90
13 Florida 629.5 +142.5
14 Georgia 624.5 +77
15 UCLA 594.5 +91.5
16 Florida State 584 +40.5
17 Miami (Florida) 560 +49
18 Michigan State 458 +14.5
19 Arkansas 439 +1
20 Georgia Tech 428 +85.5
21 Washington 408.5 +76.5
22 Mississippi 381.5 +35
23 Wisconsin 373 +46
24 Texas A&M 368 +3.5
25 Clemson 350 -2
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:14 pm to WG_Dawg
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what straws are we grasping at here?
Tryng to claim UGA is in a higher tier historically than AU is grasping at straws, especially considering how successful we've been recently and UGA's track record the last 30 years. But I'm sure it must suck to see us take a former CB and win an SEC Championship with him as our QB, when you guys, pardon my pun, can't sniff anything of the sort.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:14 pm to Hawgeye
what's insane is that (this won't happen, I know it won't happen, it's simply a pie in the sky hypothetical) if chubb took us to a heisman/natty this year and AU lost their bowl game, there wouldn't be a single one of those 12 categories they'd lead us in.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:15 pm to Rabern57
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SEC championships definitely are irrelevant when some teams have been in the conference for years and years longer than others.
The teams with more SEC titles than Auburn, have oddly enough been in the SEC, just as long as Auburn
Posted on 7/24/16 at 4:15 pm to TigerProwl24
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Tryng to claim UGA is in a higher tier historically than AU is grasping at straws
how is it grasping at straws if that is the consensus opinion? You've still yet to refute this claim at all btw.
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considering how successful we've been recently and UGA's track record the last 30 years.
good thing this is an all time ranking then huh?
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