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Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:59 pm to UGAnations
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Is it true when Bama players go to the NFL they take a pay cut?
Sit and listen, child with 4 posts. When you're just starting out, make sure you're not repeating the most tired jokes. They're not even funny when you know what you're doing. Yes, Bama/Auburn/OM players take a pay cut to go pro. Aggies are definitely gay. Arkansas fans are pig-frickers. UF is a haven for felons. Vandy fans have massive dicks. And so on. These stereotypes need some originality added to them.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:04 am to FleshEatingSalsa
Although there are some truths in that article, I disagree with Sabans dominance of the conference being the reason these other coaches on the hot seat/fired. I would rather argue that Sabans willingness to change his staff up and make adjustments with the ever changing offense in college football (hiring Kiffin) that has caused folks like Miles and Richt, who are unwilling to make those type of shakeups to adapt is why they are dealing with their current situations.
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:08 am to StringedInstruments
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I think a lot of fanbases are thinking they too can have that kind of success. And they're demanding it. Expecting it. And when they don't get it, they want blood.
not unreasonable when you are paying somebody several million dollars a year
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:10 am to FleshEatingSalsa
JMO, but both Miles and Richt would have been on secure footing if they didn't regularly drop games against less than dominant opponents. There's no shame in losing to, or even occassionally being blown out by, a dominant opponent. But losing (or getting blown out by) mediocre opponents shouldn't often happen if you are supposed to be a talented and well coached team.
Richt losing games to down Florida, Tennessee, or even lesser opponents put him in the hot seat. Missouri winning the East twice running because UGA kept tripping over their own dick earned him the heat.
Miles losing games to the likes of Kentucky, MSU, and Arkansas is what put fans over the top. The consistency isn't always there. Most fans get that when they recover from melting down. But when you have a team that offensively resembles senior citizens fricking you have a problem with your product.
Richt losing games to down Florida, Tennessee, or even lesser opponents put him in the hot seat. Missouri winning the East twice running because UGA kept tripping over their own dick earned him the heat.
Miles losing games to the likes of Kentucky, MSU, and Arkansas is what put fans over the top. The consistency isn't always there. Most fans get that when they recover from melting down. But when you have a team that offensively resembles senior citizens fricking you have a problem with your product.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:13 am to molsusports
This right here as well, nothing but truth in your post for sure
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:31 am to FleshEatingSalsa
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It's that they don't crumble after they do lose.
couple of sugar bowls say differently
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:38 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Well he is probably correct. When both schools are getting equal talent as Bama essentially, and net results don't match, it is going to eventually call for change.
That's my whole thing about Miles. He'd have at least two titles which would push him to goat status. Plus you got to figure LSU grabs a few more recruits that chose bama over LSU. That could be the diff in some of the close losses in 10 and 12 as well. With the rt bounces and not losing to saban, he could have had a 3 year stretch where he is 38-3 with one more sec west title and at least one more national title.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:17 am to dgnx6
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Well he is probably correct. When both schools are getting equal talent as Bama essentially, and net results don't match, it is going to eventually call for change.
This is pure BS. Bama has had the #1 recruiting class the past five years and it hasn't even been close. Did you even watch the LSU/Bama game? They showed a screen shot of LSU's average star rating on its O line, 3.1 and then showed Bama's, 4.3. So when you say the talent is equal give it a frigging rest. It ain't so.
Also, these guys bashing the Aubie talking about Bama'$ $ucce$$, well he has a point. Saban had less success at LSU than Miles but is able to do so well at Bama. Why is that? Did he get so much better as a college coach while coaching in the NFL? No. What is it that makes them stand out? Recruiting and able to hold onto the majority of their seniors while the majority of LSU's go pro after three years. What is the major outlier? It's the frigging REC, and anyone who knows a thing about Bama knows it to be true. Does that tick me off? No. I can look at myself in the mirror, I don't cry when LSU loses, and I don't judge or live my life with college football. It's just a dang game, but not to Bammers. It's all they have, that's it, nothing else.
I'll shut up and go back to work. Have a great day!!
Posted on 11/30/15 at 5:19 am to molsusports
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JMO, but both Miles and Richt would have been on secure footing if they didn't regularly drop games against less than dominant opponents. There's no shame in losing to, or even occassionally being blown out by, a dominant opponent. But losing (or getting blown out by) mediocre opponents shouldn't often happen if you are supposed to be a talented and well coached team.
This is the final part of the answer. In addition to the wins, Bama has not lost to an unranked team since 2007.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 5:24 am to FleshEatingSalsa
You could add Mullen to list but MSU cant find anyone that wants him. 
Posted on 11/30/15 at 6:50 am to gthog61
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not unreasonable when you are paying somebody several million dollars a year
Is unreasonable.
Some here are joking about Alabama buying talent. Maybe that's true. Maybe it isn't. What is a definite fact is that only a few schools can gather enough talent to be THAT dominant. Even then, it takes a legendary coach to develop and utilize that talent so that they perform to their highest ability.
Most schools aren't getting that talent, so even if you do have a coach is as good as Saban, you aren't going to have the same results. And most coaches aren't as good as Saban is at developing talent.
The average coach makes a few million a year. If you wanted to say that paying someone $7 million a year should get those results, fine.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 6:57 am to FleshEatingSalsa
I think any time one team starts to have sustained success in a cont year in and out it does one of two things. It drives other schools with the resources to match or other schools seem to fall behind and the conf suffers. We seem to be in a period of the second scenario but hopefully the other sec programs will become competitive again. I really believe that every sec program benefits when the sec brand is strong. It's not right now. I don't want this come to be what the big ten and pax 12 were For so long.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 7:56 am to labamafan
5 number 1 classes in a row in that dump hole of a town is an oddity. Kids usually like to play right away, but I could see them passing that up at say USCw or Miami or some other city by the sea. It's not hard to win with that kind of talent - you basically have to just not screw it up. The real question is how UA continues to land the number 1 class.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:00 am to StringedInstruments
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Is unreasonable
The average coach makes a few million a year. If you wanted to say that paying someone $7 million a year should get those results, fine.
Was about to post something along this line. Paying someone a lot of money doesn't make an expectation more realistic or absurd.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:04 am to AUX3
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The real question is how UA continues to land the number 1 class.
Well, we know it has nothing to do with the chance at a national championship, putting players in the NFL, or world-class facilities. So it must be that they pay players.
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