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re: How Nick Saban's dominance impacted coaching futures of Richt, Miles (Wetzel)
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:28 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:28 pm to RollTide1987
He was a few years early but his post was otherwise spot on.
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:30 pm to JustGetItRight
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Nailed it.
yea not really, Richt losing to Spurrior, Muschamp and Butch was the problem for him.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:31 pm to AUstar
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That's easy. It's not that everyone else has bad coaches, it's that everyone else doesn't have the REC recruiting ma$$hine working for them. As TJ Yeldon said "Bammer is taking care of my family." Rent Richardson's mamma knows this too. I mean when bammer can swing a guy who has an AU tattoo at the last second, you know $something i$ up.
As Spurrier said, Alabama has always won football games. There's nothing Saban is doing that's special other than bringing in a #1 class every single season. And he isn't doing that without help, I assure you. He's got a herd of red elephants behind him.
Poor Aubie.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:33 pm to StringedInstruments
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I think something overlooked is who Alabama was before Saban was hired.
Alabama hadn't been a respectable program since 1992. Even after they won an NC, you could see the wheels falling off with the people behind the scenes trying to control too much. Then the sanctions and Shula years. The idea that Alabama of all schools could become not just a powerhouse but THE premier program in college football was laughable.
I think a lot of fanbases are thinking they too can have that kind of success. And they're demanding it. Expecting it. And when they don't get it, they want blood.
They're delusional. Alabama is one of the blue bloods of the sport.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:34 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
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He was a few years early but his post was otherwise spot on.
Oh I know. I was just correcting the record. Our nosedive didn't really begin until 1997. Even then, there were years where we ticked upwards (1999, 2002, and 2005).
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:35 pm to RollTide1987
Yep.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:38 pm to thefloydian
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Alabama is one of the blue bloods of the sport.
who are the rest?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:39 pm to RollTide1987
Alabama during that 7 year span was mostly a team viewed like Ole Miss was viewed now. A real scrappy team that will occasionally beat someone big, but didn't have the chest to seal the deal to the SECCG.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:40 pm to William Stephenson
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who are the rest?
Notre Dame
USC
Oklahoma
Michigan
Ohio State
Texas
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:42 pm to Bench McElroy
...based on all time win %?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:49 pm to RollTide1987
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Alabama's long term trouble began with Mike DuBose
how did he get the HC job replacing Stallings...? he went from DL coach to HC...? was a search conducted etc or was he just promoted
Posted on 11/29/15 at 10:01 pm to William Stephenson
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how did he get the HC job replacing Stallings...? he went from DL coach to HC...? was a search conducted etc or was he just promoted
You can blame the boosters/fans for that one. That and the fact that we had Bob Bockrath running the athletic department at the time. There was a lot of pressure to give DuBose his chance because he had been with the program for so long. The athletic department caved and gave the people what they wanted.
At that time the fan base still thought the program needed a "Bama Boy" to run it. Thank God that mentality no longer exists.
And I believe he was the defensive coordinator at the time. He got promoted to that position after Bill Oliver left.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 10:06 pm to RollTide1987
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You can blame the boosters/fans for that one.
"Listen to the fans" they said.
"It'll all be fine" they said.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 10:32 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
I don't really understand this claim, at least with regards to Richt. He's played Saban's Bama 4 times, for a 1-3 record. One of those games was an SECCG. Since Bama isn't on UGA's regular rotation, the only real impact Saban has had on UGA other than for comparative purposes is a last second tipped pass to deny UGA what would almost certainly have been an easy BCS title game win. Richt's problems had a lot more to do with fellow SEC-E competition than Saban or Bama. Also, injuries. Injuries have been a killer these last few years.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 10:48 pm to AUstar
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That's easy. It's not that everyone else has bad coaches, it's that everyone else doesn't have the REC recruiting ma$$hine working for them. As TJ Yeldon said "Bammer is taking care of my family." Rent Richardson's mamma knows this too. I mean when bammer can swing a guy who has an AU tattoo at the last second, you know $something i$ up.
As Spurrier said, Alabama has always won football games. There's nothing Saban is doing that's special other than bringing in a #1 class every single season. And he isn't doing that without help, I assure you. He's got a herd of red elephants behind him
While smoking a cigarette outside the Houston airport, waiting on a red eye connecting flight... This made my night.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:19 pm to randomways
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I don't really understand this claim, at least with regards to Richt. He's played Saban's Bama 4 times, for a 1-3 record.
If you read the article you'll realize it's less about head-to-head and more about elevated expectations.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:27 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
Yep.
From 2011-Present, Alabama has finished 11-1 in the regular season every single year. That's 55-5 in the regular season the last five seasons for those keeping track at home.
A lot of head coaches at name programs in this conference are starting to feel the heat from their fan base as well as from their immediate superiors. If Saban is doing it consistently then they should be able to as well. That is the line of thinking anyway.
From 2011-Present, Alabama has finished 11-1 in the regular season every single year. That's 55-5 in the regular season the last five seasons for those keeping track at home.
A lot of head coaches at name programs in this conference are starting to feel the heat from their fan base as well as from their immediate superiors. If Saban is doing it consistently then they should be able to as well. That is the line of thinking anyway.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:32 pm to AUstar
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That's easy. It's not that everyone else has bad coaches, it's that everyone else doesn't have the REC recruiting ma$$hine working for them. As TJ Yeldon said "Bammer is taking care of my family." Rent Richardson's mamma knows this too. I mean when bammer can swing a guy who has an AU tattoo at the last second, you know $something i$ up.
As Spurrier said, Alabama has always won football games. There's nothing Saban is doing that's special other than bringing in a #1 class every single season. And he isn't doing that without help, I assure you. He's got a herd of red elephants behind him.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:42 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
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If you read the article you'll realize it's less about head-to-head and more about elevated expectations.
I did read it. That's why I qualified with the "comparative" bit. But elevated expectations means something different for a program that rarely has to worry about h-to-h than for, say, LSU, who has to deal with defining success completely differently because over-all success is, in some part, directly correlative with succeeding against Saban. Tennessee I can buy because they have to play Bama every year and have a rich history of rivalry with the Tide. UGA, not so much.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:47 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
Please post on tiger rant. Saban and Bama can EAD, but this article is pretty spot on.
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