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How many SEC teams could win a National Championship with Cam Newton this year?
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:30 pm
A lot of people over the years have called Cam a one man show at Auburn in 2010. I've heard people say he would've won the NC at every SEC school except Vandy in 2010. So if you put Cam on every SEC team this season how many could really win the National Championship?
Heres how i see it
Alabama - Yes
Auburn- Yes
LSU - Yes
Texas A&M-Yes
Tennessee - Yes
UGA - Yes
Florida Yes
Arkansas - I lean yes but BB is such bad coach
Mizzou - Yes
South Caroloina Yes
Kentucky- Yes
Miss State NO
Vanderbilt NO
Ole Miss - NA
Heres how i see it
Alabama - Yes
Auburn- Yes
LSU - Yes
Texas A&M-Yes
Tennessee - Yes
UGA - Yes
Florida Yes
Arkansas - I lean yes but BB is such bad coach
Mizzou - Yes
South Caroloina Yes
Kentucky- Yes
Miss State NO
Vanderbilt NO
Ole Miss - NA
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Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:34 pm to AU24
Another worthless space taking post.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:39 pm to AU24
Now I'm just imagining any of these Bama teams with Cam. Sweet mother of God
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:40 pm to AU24
Alabama - Yes
Auburn- Yes
LSU - Yes
Arkansas - Maybe
Texas A&M - Maybe
Tennessee - Maybe
UGA - Maybe
Florida - Maybe
Mizzou - No
South Carolina - No.
Kentucky - No.
Miss State - No.
Vanderbilt - No.
Ole Miss - NA
Auburn- Yes
LSU - Yes
Arkansas - Maybe
Texas A&M - Maybe
Tennessee - Maybe
UGA - Maybe
Florida - Maybe
Mizzou - No
South Carolina - No.
Kentucky - No.
Miss State - No.
Vanderbilt - No.
Ole Miss - NA
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:43 pm to genro
Fap material.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:46 pm to LSUdude247
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Alabama - Yes Auburn- Yes LSU - Yes Arkansas - Maybe Texas A&M - Maybe Tennessee - Maybe UGA - Maybe Florida - Maybe
Why are you so sure about LSU, but maybe on UF and UGA?
Posted on 7/9/17 at 11:22 pm to AU24
A&M had a better QB in 2013 and still lost 4 games.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:28 am to Uncle Gunnysack
Cam was way better, not even close
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:36 am to Hmerly
did he put up over 600 yards against a saban defense?
why couldnt he put up over 5000 yards in only 12 games?
why couldnt he put up over 5000 yards in only 12 games?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:58 am to Uncle Gunnysack
Who won the championship and who was a star in college and a star in the NFL? You gotta be kidding me
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:25 am to Hmerly
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Cam was way better, not even close
Cam Newton won Auburn a National Championship. Johnny Manziel tricked the entire nation into thinking Texas A&M could compete in the SEC. Are you going to tell me with a straight face that those aren't equal accomplishments?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:32 am to Hmerly
guessing the guy with a defense.
tee martin > peyton
tee martin > peyton
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:53 am to LSUdude247
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Alabama - Yes
Auburn- Yes
LSU - Yes
Arkansas - Maybe
Texas A&M - Maybe
Tennessee - Maybe
UGA - Maybe
Florida - Maybe
Mizzou - No
South Carolina - No.
Kentucky - No.
Miss State - No.
Vanderbilt - No.
Ole Miss - NA
This is the correct and realistic answer.
2010 Auburn wasn't nearly as depleted as people make it out to be. Cam actually had a really good supporting cast on offense and a defense that was much better than the statistics showed.
Cam Newton was so damn good that he made it look like he did it all by himself, but in reality that's not close to true.
RB- Mike Dyer (5* and #1 ranked RB recruit in the country, freshmen All-American, 1st Team All-SEC, and if he had a head on his shoulders he almost certainly ends up a 1st round draft pick, and possibly Auburn's all-time leading rusher had he stayed 4 years)
& Onterrio McCalleb, the speed sweep God who wad tailor made for the AU offense.
WR- no NFL talent but had Darvin Adams who was reliable as hell, never dropped anything, and was a frog hair away from two straight 1000 yard seasons. Had he stayed for his senior season he is almost without a doubt Auburn's career leader in receptions and yards
Terrell Zachery, undersized, but big time play maker, clutch as hell, and IMO possibly the most underrated offensive player in the last 10 years in the SEC
& Emory Blake, statistically top 5 WR in AU history in every category, and again very reliable
TE- Phillip Lutzenkirchen. Greatest TE in AU history. Great hands, extremely reliable, extremely clutch (seeing a theme among our 2010 pass catchers?)
OL- no star power (only 2 got drafted), but possibly the best OL in CFB that season. Had 4 seniors that had started over 100 games, and the only new starter was the only one that started an NFL games
LT was a consensus All-American, and the Center was 1st team All-SEC, and both those guys were 4 year starters
DL- Nick "GOAT" Fairley.
But we also had Dee Ford and Corey Lemonier on that line and several underrated guys. Arguably the best DL in the SEC in 2010
LB- Josh Bynes who has had a solid NFL career where he's started 28 games.
And Daren Bates who's not an NFL starter but one of the best special teams specialists in the league and just signed a 3 year deal with the Titans.
DB- caught a lot of flack for getting burned a lot in 2010, but I think the system made them look worse then they were because there was some solid talent in this group.
The infamous Neiko Thorpe is actually still playing in the NFL with one of the league's best secondaries in Seattle.
Demons Washington is in the CFL where he's an All-Star. Only reason he's not on an NFL roster is he's 5'9"
K- Wes Byrum. As clutch as it gets. Hands down, we don't win or even get to the BCSNCG without him
TL;DR
Obviously we don't win the Natty without Cam, but Cam had a lot of help and doesn't win the Natty without help from several guys.
Tons of underrated talent on this team.
This team may have been 8 or 9 win team with a QB like Barrett Trotter, but I don't thibk Cam is the only QB that could have won a Natty with 2010 Auburn. Nick Marshall for example would been a contender with 2010 AU
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 2:25 am
Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:19 am to Uncle Gunnysack
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did he put up over 600 yards against a saban defense?
Nick Marshall did
Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:57 am to BowlJackson
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Alabama - Yes
Auburn- Yes
LSU - Yes
Arkansas - Maybe
Texas A&M - Maybe
Tennessee - Maybe
UGA - Maybe
Florida - Maybe
Maybe you're just trying to troll, but Newton would have won a championship at any of the big six schools, even if he couldn't do it in the first year. Let's face it, it took a little luck to do it in one year at Auburn. I also think he could have won one at A&M with the resources they have if he was given a couple years. Manziel went 11–2 in '12 with his only two losses by a TD combined to an 11–2/#9 Florida and 10–3 #14 LSU.
The rest are situational maybes. He would have won one at South Carolina if he was playing during any of Spurrier's three 11–2 seasons in a row. He could have won one at Arkansas under Petrino if the conditions were right. And honestly, very little stood between Pinkel and the NC game during the '13 and '14 seasons that a playmaker like Newton couldn't have worked around.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:37 am to VagueMessage
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Maybe you're just trying to troll, but Newton would have won a championship at any of the big six schools,
UGA and Tennesse both went 6-7 in 2010. Their teams were shite. Florida also didn't have near the offensive talent to surround Cam with in 2010 that Auburn did, and a worse front 7 on defense.
As great as Cam was, no football player will ever be good enough to win by themselves.
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He could have won one at Arkansas under Petrino if the conditions were right.
Doubt it. Their defenses were way too bad to win a championship.
Great supporting cast on offense with Knile Davis and those WRs. But the catch is that Petrino's offense was not built to utilize Cams rushing ability, and while he probably would have matched Ryan Malletts passing production, that production through the air was pretty much maxed out and not getting much better.
Cam would have improved their record by 1 game but only because he wouldn't have been at Auburn. They wouldn't have been any better though technically and wouldn't have won the Natty.
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I also think he could have won one at A&M with the resources they have if he was given a couple years. Manziel went 11–2 in '12 with his only two losses by a TD combined to an 11–2/#9 Florida and 10–3 #14 LSU.
Texas A&M fans argue that Manziel was better than Newton. So even they don't think they would have won the Natty with Cam since they couldn't do it with a "better" QB.
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He would have won one at South Carolina if he was playing during any of Spurrier's three 11–2 seasons in a row
I actually agree with you they would have been the best contender you've mentioned so far.
However I think their best team would have been 2011. They already finished 11-2 and top 10 without Cam
Alshon Jeffrey, Marcus Lattimore, Bruce Ellington, Ace Sanders
Jadeveon Clowney, Melvin Ingram, Devin Taylor, Stephon Gilmore, DJ Swearinger
That's a loaded team. A damn good team. Without a doubt, their best team and their best chance at a Natty.
Big problem though. A lot people consider the 2011 Bama and LSU teams as some of the best ever.... would that South Carolina team be able to overcome those two?
I believe they get the edge over LSU. Cam Newton over Jordan Jefferson is a no brainer.
But if Bama still gets voted in for an all SEC BCSNCG, then that would be a very interesting game.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:58 am to BowlJackson
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But the catch is that Petrino's offense was not built to utilize Cams rushing ability,
Petrino's 1500 yds/rushing qb just won a heisman.
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he probably would have matched Ryan Malletts passing production,
Bowl, seriously. No one long balls like Ryan Mallett.
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Their defenses were way too bad to win a championship.
You're fckn right about this. That defense was terrrrible.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 5:41 am to BowlJackson
So auburn fans admit to buying a championship. Without cam they lose 4 or 5 games.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 6:55 am to AU24
All depends on who could afford his $180,000 + hiring price.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:40 am to AU24
Cam by himself isn't enough, with no offensive line he wouldn't be able to carry a team.
Even with a great O-line that year at Auburn, Auburn still needed several small miracles to make it.
If you honestly think that Cam+Mizzou's team this year would be a national title you're crazy, he'd turn a 4-8 team to a 7-5 team.
Even with a great O-line that year at Auburn, Auburn still needed several small miracles to make it.
If you honestly think that Cam+Mizzou's team this year would be a national title you're crazy, he'd turn a 4-8 team to a 7-5 team.
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