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How is Kentucky's Offensive Line?

Posted on 10/16/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted by inadaze
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 1:11 pm
I see that Patrick Towles has been sacked the 2nd most times in the conference.

Is UK having problems on the OL?

Anthony Jennings is 3rd, largely because he doesn't have good pocket awareness. He tends to get antsy and leave relatively clean pockets too early, and he doesn't have a good feel for where to move to elude the pressure. Also there have been protection issues on the interior. One-on-one matchups with the center are problematic.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 1:12 pm to
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I see that Patrick Towles has been sacked the 2nd most times in the conference.

Isn't Worley first? This makes me happy.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 1:47 pm to
We finally just got back starter Zach West after an ongoing neck/nerve issue. Swindle is pretty green but has done a good job moving in (despite the false starts). For the most part the line is decent but has dealt with some injuries and is still transitioning from a pro-style offense to the air raid (especially personnel wise).

Part of the issue is also Towles has a tendency sometimes to hold on to the ball for-ev-er. And the other times he gets happy feet. So I'd say it's somewhere inbetween as to why he's ranked where he is.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted by JDHLaw
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:30 pm to
It's just OK. Darrian Miller at LT has been battling a shoulder injury since the UF game. We've played three redshirt freshmen at the two guard spots, including one regular starter (Meyers) at RG.

As Belle said, West at LG is back and was outstanding in the SCAR game but sort of dropped off against UL-M.

Swindle at RT is a nasty, punishing kid who tends to get at least one false start per game.

As for the 13 total sacks on Towles this season, it may be second-worst in the SEC, narrowly behind Jennings (12), Wallace (11), Mauk (10) and Hill (10), but I don't think it's an issue in the LSU game.

Mainly because LSU only has 11 sacks on the season (through 7 games) and 7 of them came against Sam Houston State.

UK's sacks broken down by game:

Ohio - 5.0 (14.0 on season)
Florida - 2.0 (16.0 on season)
Vanderbilt - 4.0 (12.0 on season)
South Carolina - 1.0 (7.0 on season)
UL Monroe - 2.0 (21.0 on season)

Outside of Ohio and Vanderbilt, two underdogs who brought pressure on almost every passing down (and coincidentally the two games where the offense was stagnant and constantly behind the chains after 1st down) UK's protection has been pretty good.

I think LSU probably gets to Towles a couple of times, but that number could go up or down based on UK's success on first down.

That's an interesting question since LSU is allowing an average of 175 yards per game on the ground at 4.7 per carry.

UK is rushing for 184 yards per game at 4.85 per carry. If UK can have success running the ball on 1st down, I can't see LSU getting a lot of pressure on the QB.



This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:32 pm to
Preston Smith and Chris Jones are licking their chops. Hopefully the LSU D-Line will bang them up for our game in Lexington next week.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:33 pm to
Now Bundy, you don't sound like a confident #1 when you're hoping another team beats them up for success.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:40 pm to
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Now Bundy, you don't sound like a confident #1 when you're hoping another team beats them up for success.


Considering this is our first time EVER to be #1 I dont know exactly how to feel.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:44 pm to
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It's just OK. Darrian Miller at LT has been battling a shoulder injury since the UF game. We've played three redshirt freshmen at the two guard spots, including one regular starter (Meyers) at RG.

As Belle said, West at LG is back and was outstanding in the SCAR game but sort of dropped off against UL-M.

Swindle at RT is a nasty, punishing kid who tends to get at least one false start per game.

As for the 13 total sacks on Towles this season, it may be second-worst in the SEC, narrowly behind Jennings (12), Wallace (11), Mauk (10) and Hill (10), but I don't think it's an issue in the LSU game.

Mainly because LSU only has 11 sacks on the season (through 7 games) and 7 of them came against Sam Houston State.

UK's sacks broken down by game:

Ohio - 5.0 (14.0 on season)
Florida - 2.0 (16.0 on season)
Vanderbilt - 4.0 (12.0 on season)
South Carolina - 1.0 (7.0 on season)
UL Monroe - 2.0 (21.0 on season)

Outside of Ohio and Vanderbilt, two underdogs who brought pressure on almost every passing down (and coincidentally the two games where the offense was stagnant and constantly behind the chains after 1st down) UK's protection has been pretty good.

I think LSU probably gets to Towles a couple of times, but that number could go up or down based on UK's success on first down.

That's an interesting question since LSU is allowing an average of 175 yards per game on the ground at 4.7 per carry.

UK is rushing for 184 yards per game at 4.85 per carry. If UK can have success running the ball on 1st down, I can't see LSU getting a lot of pressure on the QB.

Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Part of the issue is also Towles has a tendency sometimes to hold on to the ball for-ev-er.


Jennings does that too, but much of it is a function of the type of offense he's being asked to run.

I think it's fair to say that Jennings has more of a problem with sacks than Towles because AJ has shared time with Brandon Harris.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:45 pm to
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate on Towles for it. Considering it's his first rodeo as a starter this season and really his first full season healthy in the system he's doing better than I expected. I just assume it's par for the course when you're a young guy at that position.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Isn't Worley first? This makes me happy.


Worley is on pace to get sacked 50 times.

50. Times.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:47 pm to
That Ole Miss line might murder Worley.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:49 pm to
2nd most sacks in the conference?

Tigers Finna Eat
Posted by Allyn McKeen
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:50 pm to
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Worley is on pace to get sacked 50 times.

50. Times.


Are you talking about the season or just this Saturday?
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:59 pm to
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That's an interesting question since LSU is allowing an average of 175 yards per game on the ground at 4.7 per carry.

UK is rushing for 184 yards per game at 4.85 per carry. If UK can have success running the ball on 1st down, I can't see LSU getting a lot of pressure on the QB.


LSU definitely has major problems stopping the run. It really starts on the interior of the defensive line. Right now the starters are a frosh that played DE in HS, and a true sophomore that's not explosive and has all kinds of problems holding his ground.

Overall, the DL is light by LSU standards, but that's the trend with Chavis as DC. The DEs play strong, but they're both in the 240 range.

I think Hunter and Rasco may be able to get some pressure on Towles in the passing game, but I agree with you, there probably won't be many opportunities if LSU doesn't play better rushing defense.

Another good matchup will be the Kentucky DEs vs. LSU's tackles. NFL scouts will be very interested in this matchup.
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Another good matchup will be the Kentucky DEs vs. LSU's tackles. NFL scouts will be very interested in this matchup.


How is LSU's RT? I know how good Collins is, but don't know much about Hawkins.

I think Collins vs. Douglas is a mismatch and Collins vs. Dupree is going to be a decent matchup, but I'm more interested in Dupree/Hatcher/Z. Smith vs. Hawkins.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:22 pm to
Hawkins is very good. I admit I'm biased, but I don't think there's a better tandem of offensive tackles in the country than Collins and Hawkins.

He's underrated nationally in terms of awards, recognition, etc., but he's an incredible athlete.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:32 pm to
Dillon Gordon is also very underrated at TE. He's essentially an extra tackle.

He gets a lot of one-on-one matchups with DEs. Last week he dominated vs. Florida.

That makes 2 consecutive years he's neutralized their talented LBs and DEs.
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