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How are the defenses supposed to be in the SEC this year?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:38 pm
Naturally, I assume Alabama's will be great. Florida should be very good too. LSU? They've got a great defensive coordinator, but lost a bunch of talent (two first rounders in the secondary and two third round linebackers).
Georgia? Tennessee? Auburn? South Carolina?
Anyone care to give me a breakdown/ranking of the SEC defenses?
Georgia? Tennessee? Auburn? South Carolina?
Anyone care to give me a breakdown/ranking of the SEC defenses?
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 3:43 pm
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:40 pm to Forkbeard3777
Georgia will be good
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:41 pm to Forkbeard3777
Tennessee's cannot be worse than last year.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:43 pm to volfan30
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Tennessee's cannot be worse than last year.
Wasn't that just due to injuries? Shoop is a good DC.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:44 pm to Forkbeard3777
I've got two words for you.
3 4.
3 4.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:45 pm to hogNsinceReagan
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I've got two words for you:
3 4.
Those are numbers.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:49 pm to Forkbeard3777
You hope so.
The 2 DEs are our only real losses from guys who played the meat of the schedule last year.
Unfortunately we had to play without JRM and Sutton last year so I don't really count those guys as key contributors lost.
Get all the DTs and Kirkland back as well. Should be at least an average unit if healthy imo.
Still worried about the back end.
The 2 DEs are our only real losses from guys who played the meat of the schedule last year.
Unfortunately we had to play without JRM and Sutton last year so I don't really count those guys as key contributors lost.
Get all the DTs and Kirkland back as well. Should be at least an average unit if healthy imo.
Still worried about the back end.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:49 pm to Forkbeard3777
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Wasn't that just due to injuries? Shoop is a good DC.
We got devastated by injuries. After the UF, UGA, TAMU, Bama streak we were a shell of ourselves. Only had 1 actual DLineman at that point, the rest were converted ends.
We do have a number of young starters this year and are not as deep as we'd like at LB. But Shoop is a solid DC and we have more guys playing their natural position again so that will help. Should be a decent defense with no glaring weak spots
Until we play GT in Week 1 and lose 4 more D linemen
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:55 pm to Forkbeard3777
LSU should look good with our 3-4 defense. We've arguably got the best defensive coordinator in the country and I'm excited with what he can do in this new base 3-4 formation. I'd be lying to you if I said I wasn't concerned about our secondary though.
The line should consist of Christian LaCouture, Rashard Lawrence, and Ed Alexander.
The linebackers will be: Arden Key, Devin White, Korey Thompson, and someone else. If Chaisson's speed and agility is all what it is cracked up to be (Arden Key or Barkevious Mingo - pt. 2), I'd love to see him on the field with Key.
The defensive backs will take a big hit imo. Donte Jackson and Kevin Tolliver will be the CBs. Meh. LSU fans love to hype them up and their speed. I don't see it. The safety positions are up in the air as well. I assume Battle will be playing in one of the positions. I project this will be one of our weaker secondaries we've had in a while.
The line should consist of Christian LaCouture, Rashard Lawrence, and Ed Alexander.
The linebackers will be: Arden Key, Devin White, Korey Thompson, and someone else. If Chaisson's speed and agility is all what it is cracked up to be (Arden Key or Barkevious Mingo - pt. 2), I'd love to see him on the field with Key.
The defensive backs will take a big hit imo. Donte Jackson and Kevin Tolliver will be the CBs. Meh. LSU fans love to hype them up and their speed. I don't see it. The safety positions are up in the air as well. I assume Battle will be playing in one of the positions. I project this will be one of our weaker secondaries we've had in a while.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:57 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Until we play GT in Week 1 and lose 4 more D linemen
That's one team I wouldn't want the hassle of playing. 
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:57 pm to Forkbeard3777
MsState ended up 113th last year. i expect us to finish around 20th at best 50th at worst. we have top notch quality and depth at DL. Linebackers are pretty good. All depends on how well our juco DBs pan out. I think we have a good defensive coaching group that can keep us competitive on that side of the ball. Regardless... finishing 50th is more than twice as better than last year which is absurd.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:57 pm to Forkbeard3777
AU, on paper, will be talented.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:59 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Until we play GT in Week 1 and lose 4 more D linemen
I would advise everyone in the front 7 to wear knee braces.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:59 pm to Forkbeard3777
In terms of Arkansas, I really don't know if our run defense can get any worse.
We are changing to a 3-4 this year, should help with some of the issues from last year. So I can imagine that there are going to be some growing pains early. Hopefully they are minor and we get them fixed fast. I really like our secondary and think it is going to be solid this year.
We are changing to a 3-4 this year, should help with some of the issues from last year. So I can imagine that there are going to be some growing pains early. Hopefully they are minor and we get them fixed fast. I really like our secondary and think it is going to be solid this year.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:01 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I would advise everyone in the front 7 to wear knee braces.
I know that's a big rivalry and all, but you guys have got to hate playing them at the end of the year. You've already faced a brutal SEC schedule and then you're rewarded with a week or so to prepare for an archaic, triple option attack with a tired, injured, and depleted team.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:12 pm to Forkbeard3777
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Wasn't that just due to injuries? Shoop is a good DC.
Injuries to key defensive players killed us last season. Notice the disparity between 2 of the better teams that we played early in the year compared to 3 of the worst teams that we played at the end of the year. It's significant.
Florida averaged 3.1 yards per carry.
Virginia Tech averaged 4.1 yards per carry.
Missouri averaged 7.1 yards per carry
Kentucky averaged 8.1 yards per carry
Vandy averaged 5.3 yards per carry
Virginia Tech had 400 total yards
Florida had 402 total yards
Missouri had 740 total yards
Kentucky had 635 total yards
Vandy had 608 total yards
Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:25 pm to Forkbeard3777
LSU will be good
Not worried about our DLine at all, Rashard Lawrence, Ed Alexander, Christian Lacouture are all guys who are talented and have played well against good competition in the past.
At OLB/pass rusher, Key might be the best at his position in the country. We have some really talented young guys at the other spot (Andre Anthony, Ray Thornton, K'Lavon Chaisson), one of them is bound to take over and be good.
MLB we will be inexperienced but Devin White looked awesome after taking over for Beckwith post-injury. He is really fast and athletic for a MLB, I don't expect much drop-off there. The other spot could be Donnie Alexander, Michael Divinity, or Corey Thompson, none of which are really true MLBs.
CBs will be solid, Kevin Toliver and Donte Jackson. I think this is the year Donte makes the next step and really becomes a great CB rather than just an athlete that looks lost at times. Toliver had a great Freshman season, but went MIA the second half of last season. He just needs to learn how to turn his head around.
Safeties could be our weakness. John Battle is okay, nothing special, but he will give us some experience at one of the positions. The other spot could be 1 of a handful of guys, alot of 4 and 5 star talents out of HS that haven't really lived up to their potential at LSU. I am going to go out on a limb and say Grant Delpit (true freshman) will be the second starter for us at safety, and he will be phenomenal. Probably not too far of a stretch given that he started the spring game and at times looked like our best defensive player. Crazy to think he had only been practicing a few weeks.
TLDR:
DLine - Great
OLBs - 1 All American, 1 okay
MLBs - 1 solid, 1 a weakness
CBs - Could be great, could be a weakness
S - Weakness, projecting Grant Delpit to be a Freshman All American
Not worried about our DLine at all, Rashard Lawrence, Ed Alexander, Christian Lacouture are all guys who are talented and have played well against good competition in the past.
At OLB/pass rusher, Key might be the best at his position in the country. We have some really talented young guys at the other spot (Andre Anthony, Ray Thornton, K'Lavon Chaisson), one of them is bound to take over and be good.
MLB we will be inexperienced but Devin White looked awesome after taking over for Beckwith post-injury. He is really fast and athletic for a MLB, I don't expect much drop-off there. The other spot could be Donnie Alexander, Michael Divinity, or Corey Thompson, none of which are really true MLBs.
CBs will be solid, Kevin Toliver and Donte Jackson. I think this is the year Donte makes the next step and really becomes a great CB rather than just an athlete that looks lost at times. Toliver had a great Freshman season, but went MIA the second half of last season. He just needs to learn how to turn his head around.
Safeties could be our weakness. John Battle is okay, nothing special, but he will give us some experience at one of the positions. The other spot could be 1 of a handful of guys, alot of 4 and 5 star talents out of HS that haven't really lived up to their potential at LSU. I am going to go out on a limb and say Grant Delpit (true freshman) will be the second starter for us at safety, and he will be phenomenal. Probably not too far of a stretch given that he started the spring game and at times looked like our best defensive player. Crazy to think he had only been practicing a few weeks.
TLDR:
DLine - Great
OLBs - 1 All American, 1 okay
MLBs - 1 solid, 1 a weakness
CBs - Could be great, could be a weakness
S - Weakness, projecting Grant Delpit to be a Freshman All American
Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:31 pm to Forkbeard3777
West should have great defenses in LSU and Alabama. Auburn and Arkansas look good on paper as well. A&M and State will likely struggle. Ole Miss will be streaky.
In the East, the question will be whether Florida will continue to excel another year removed from Muschamp's departure. They look really good on paper, but they lost a lot of talent to the draft. Georgia looks to be the natural front-runner on defense. South Carolina looks to be much improved from a unit which seemed to really grow over the course of last season. Tennessee will be streaky. Vanderbilt will be good, but lack depth for the 4th quarter. Mizzou and Kentucky will struggle.
So:
West:
Alabama
LSU
Auburn
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Miss State
A&M
East:
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Mizzou
In the East, the question will be whether Florida will continue to excel another year removed from Muschamp's departure. They look really good on paper, but they lost a lot of talent to the draft. Georgia looks to be the natural front-runner on defense. South Carolina looks to be much improved from a unit which seemed to really grow over the course of last season. Tennessee will be streaky. Vanderbilt will be good, but lack depth for the 4th quarter. Mizzou and Kentucky will struggle.
So:
West:
Alabama
LSU
Auburn
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Miss State
A&M
East:
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Mizzou
Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:35 pm to Forkbeard3777
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I know that's a big rivalry and all, but you guys have got to hate playing them at the end of the year. You've already faced a brutal SEC schedule and then you're rewarded with a week or so to prepare for an archaic, triple option attack with a tired, injured, and depleted team.
Playing them every year helps in preparation. At least most of our guys have seen it before at full speed.
It's bullshite that they spend all game diving at peoples' knees.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:44 pm to Forkbeard3777
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Georgia
4. LSU
5. Auburn
6. South Carolina
7. Vanderbilt
8. Tennessee
9. Arkansas
10. Mississippi State
11. Kentucky
12. Ole Miss
13. Texas A&M
14. Missouri
2. Florida
3. Georgia
4. LSU
5. Auburn
6. South Carolina
7. Vanderbilt
8. Tennessee
9. Arkansas
10. Mississippi State
11. Kentucky
12. Ole Miss
13. Texas A&M
14. Missouri
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 5:06 pm
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