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Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:38 pm to
literally probably this seat

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79954 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:40 pm to
Kevin Sumlin is Tier 0 now. As in "0 room for error".

Going back over the tenures of his last three predecessors:

R.C. Slocum was let go because the president (Ray Bowen) and athletic director (Wally Groff) who were protecting him were no longer there to save him from being held accountable for failing miserably. People forget that, had A&M not won the Big 12 in 1998, Slocum's contract would not have been renewed (1998 was the final year of his contract). He had no support whatsoever from the administration in terms of facilities because the mindset was that beating Texas was good enough.

Dennis Franchione was universally hated. The information about the VIP newsletter was leaked in order to reduce his buyout. Not even a perfect season in 2007 was going to save him.

Mike Sherman, while well-liked, no longer had the one individual (Mike McKinney) that was protecting him around to cover for him. John Sharp took over as chancellor that season. He also made two critical mistakes: He publicly spoke out against the move to the SEC and he refused to hire an offensive coordinator to delegate playcalling responsibilities to. This played out in the 2nd half collapses in 2011.

Kevin Sumlin has been getting more and more information leaked out against him. This is strategic, as he will basically have his most talented team across the board in 2016 top to bottom (2012 had 5 first round picks and Damontre Moore, but little else in terms of depth). This is also the team with the most upperclass leadership since his 2012 squad. This season will prove whether or not he is a good coach. Right now, all indications are that he will fail horribly. If he doesn't show significant improvement from the last two seasons, there will be enough information threatened or leaked about him to make him leave with minimal compensation.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 7:11 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:43 pm to
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Tier 2 (probably safe, but could be in some trouble if the wheels fall off)

Mullen
Malzahn


Auburn could easily be looking at 6-6. Two or three of those, including the season opener, could easily be brutal arse rapings. Given where Auburn is right now, that really doesn't qualify as "wheels falling off", but it should be enough to get Malzahn fired, although I certainly hope not.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Eh, I think it would have to be a complete collapse, like 3 or 4 wins



Not sure on that, 5-7 would do it missing a bowl IMO (say 2-6 in conference), but maybe he'd be one of those lucky teams to go bowling at 5-7
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:30 pm to
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Not sure on that, 5-7 would do it missing a bowl IMO (say 2-6 in conference), but maybe he'd be one of those lucky teams to go bowling at 5-7


I don't think he would get fired at 5-7 next year but he would need 7-9 wins the next year to not get fired or maybe more. Of course this is almost impossible to guess because we don't know the circumstances.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:39 pm to
NM
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Porker Face
Midnight
Member since Feb 2012
15317 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Odom


Who does he coach for? Are we doing coordinators too?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73168 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

A&M is an extremely conservative University


So ya'll are cheap.

I thought the money was endless like the treasure hoard of erebor
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17271 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 5:51 pm to
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Bama won't tolerate mediocrity - there would be no excuse for Saban if he turned in 3 fricking years of 7-8 wins.
Not that I think there's a chance in hell of this happening, it would certainly be interesting to see how the UA admins would handle it.

First of all, they would officially be on the hook for the remainder of his contract, which would be upwards of $30 million at minimum. Granted, Saban could agree to go quietly and "resign" for a settled amount, but knowing who represents him makes this unlikely.

The question would then become, who is worthy of succeeding him? Obviously it would have to be someone they believe would immediately get them back in playoff contention, so it will almost have to be an established HC at a major program with recent success - which means a hefty buyout to get him, and likely a substantial raise from whatever his current school is paying him - so, another $15 million or so up front, plus $7 or more a year in hopes that he'll be better than the legend he's replacing.

Let's face it - you'll be better off hoping Ms Terry tells Nick it's time to call it quits before any sort of decline happens. You're simply not going to upgrade from the GOAT, no matter how much you say you "won't tolerate mediocrity".
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79954 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:09 pm to
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SDVTiger


Shouldn't you be telling combat veterans that they are "fake army"?
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10678 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:12 pm to
Freeze heating up with show cause looming
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:13 pm to
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Bielema should be on Tier 2.5


Agreed
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