Honest question for Florida fans: recruiting

Their class is between MSU and Arkansas. Ask those two if a run is possible.

Jimbo wasn't pulling top classes as OC / HC when Meyer had his run. UF needs to win. That's all. FSU's lone advantage over UF is that it has lower standards. When both programs are winning, UF does exceptionally well against FSU in recruiting.

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UF is a sleeping giant. They are the only SEC school in a talent rich state. As you said, Spurrier really wasn't a great recruiter but got enough talent that alongside his revolutionary mind was able to win one, count 'em, one national title. You put someone in there w/ recruiting and coaching ability and they are a force to be reckoned w/. Butter teeth is about the same recruiter w/out all that genius baggage that Spurrier had. Good coach can eat Jimbo's lunch. Richt is Richt.

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This doesn't give Spurrier nearly as much credit as he deserves. He pulled in some amazing recruiting classes. He played for the national title twice. Played against the eventual title winner 5 times (6 times if you count AU in 93).

He came up short a few times for getting to the national title game but he won more SEC titles than years Meyer was at UF. And he faced more ranked and more top 10 teams on average, per year, than what Saban has faced. And he had to deal with FSU at a time when FSU never finished outside of the top 5. In 10 of the 12 years he was at UF, a team from Florida won or played for the national title. Spurrier had to play against and recruit against these Florida teams.

We will never again see a coach achieve so much in an environment like that. Saban will probably end up as the greatest ever, but he will not have dealt with the same environment Spurrier had to deal with.


Based on the limited data so far for Mac, Spurrier was a better recruiter. When Spurrier arrived in 1990, UF was dealing with probation, FSU was an annual top 5 team, Miami had won the title in 87 and 89, would win it in 91. Despite this, Spurrier's first two classes were top 10.

Some good points about Spurrier, but I don't agree that Spurrier faced tougher competition than Saban has at Bama.

The SEC, especially the West Division has been the toughest conference in CFB during Saban's tenure at Bama. Bama has played plenty of tough OOC teams too.

The state of Alabama has a limited supply of blue chip talent and AU will get some of them. Saban has to recruit against the in-state schools in other states.

Spurrier was certainly great at Florida, tho. Meyer was also.

Recruiting is a problem for Mac . Hopefully if he gets a QB that is atleast average the offense will improve and so will recruiting . His recruiting and lack of a ability to get a QB that's not total garbage will cost him his job.

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His recruiting and lack of a ability to get a QB

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Wasnt Franks a 4 star QB? When he arrived we had Grier who was looking pretty good before he pissed hot.

I think Georgia has 8 or 9 guys ranked higher than floridas top recruit.

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UF is a sleeping giant. They are the only SEC school in a talent rich state.

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While Florida is the most talent rich state, they aren't the only school surrounded by talent in the SEC. Texas has a lot of talent, and like Florida, a lot of schools to divide that talent. Then there is Louisiana where there is talent and only one P5 school. I am not disagreeing with your entire post, I am just disagreeing with your statement saying Florida is the ONLY SEC school in a talent rich state. I do totally agree with you that there is no excuse for the only SEC school in Florida to not recruit well.

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Mac will be running off of muschamps's players soon

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Same ones that got Champ fired??

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If you can't see how much Muschamp's defensive dudes have helped Mac, you're being willfully ignorant.

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So are the ppl trying to say UF ONLY wins due to Champs players. 1 Jr plays on Offense that was his. The rest are Macs guys.

The whole "Coach X only wins because of Coach Y's players" deal only works if Coach Y won with them also. Seems pretty dumb to say that if that coach was fired for doing poorly and another coach comes in and wins. Unless youre bumping up the new HC that is.