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Honest question about Ole Miss self imposed penalties

Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:07 pm
Posted by r2d2
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:07 pm
They are punishing themselves with 1 scholarship in 2015 and 2 in 2016?... Does that mean for NSD? Or overall in their roster?

Sounds almost ridiculous from the distance to try to do it retroactively. Maybe
I'm missing something.
Posted by AUatWashandLee
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:14 pm to
I haven't seen the years, but as far as I'm aware scholarship sanctions only take away future scholarships (NSD) and have nothing to do with the current roster.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:20 pm to
I believe it's just for incoming athletes and does not reflect the total team roster.
Posted by MullenBoys
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:13 am to
The response to the Ncaa was loss scholly in 2015 and 2016 which makes no sense at all since the incoming class will be 2017.

How do you punish yourself for previous classes? It might be me but I think the Ncaa is looking at this as a joke.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:23 am to
You realize your program has committed infractions and undersign
Posted by REBEL5 AC
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:26 am to
Probably just you
Posted by MullenBoys
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:30 am to
Unlike you we fired an assistant coach pronto and reported as such. Meanwhile you guys have previous coaches, 3 current coaches and a damn assit AD with violations.

And we don't have an AD lying to fans and stating the allegations were about previous staff which of course you people ate up. But then, you also believed the Oher crap too. Face it, it's caught up with you and rigging test scores to get star recruits qualified is even worse.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 12:36 am
Posted by SwayzeBalla
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:32 am to
OM is not going to stop cheating. Accept it and move on.
Posted by MullenBoys
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:39 am to
quote:

OM is not going to stop cheating. Accept it and move on.


We know that and so does the Ncaa. In fact, even after they sent you a letter you were still cheating and thumbing your noses. This is why a second letter is coming and likely far worse than the first. So go ahead and cheat, you're gonna have to buy houses now to get recruits when all said and done and the Ncaa will be in your shite watching every move.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:44 am to
We've patiently been waiting on the 2nd letter for months now. Also, buying houses for players and their family is an old strategy. You Dawgs need to get a better grasp on how to recruit and cheat with the big boys. Used cars aren't exactly worth it. A 4,000 square feet home for Momma Tunsil is worth it.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 12:44 am
Posted by MullenBoys
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:53 am to
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We've patiently been waiting on the 2nd letter for months now. Also, buying houses for players and their family is an old strategy. You Dawgs need to get a better grasp on how to recruit and cheat with the big boys. Used cars aren't exactly worth it. A 4,000 square feet home for Momma Tunsil is worth it.


The second letter comes later. Investigation still ongoing.

But you know, I can't help but laugh. First there was no investigation. Then is was "No worries, it's about previous staff." Then it was "Little to do with nothing, minor stuff with current staff."

Now we see 8 level 1 infractions and more infractions on current staff than on previous staff with Freeze sitting in the home of a recruit next to a booster and the Ncaa is just getting started lol.

Deny deny deny in your own world but I've been dead on while people like you kept spinning. A second letter will destroy you as repeat offender after the Ncaa adds far more to self-imposed penalties from the first letter. Get with the program.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 2:41 am to
once you go on probation (and you will off the 1st letter) and the second letter comes (and it will) you will get the death penalty per ncaa by laws. congrats Ole miss. you are the new SMU. you get caught cheating. get the NOA and then Tunsil admits to being paid and out comes the second rapid fire.
Posted by KTownRebel
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2014
2854 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 2:55 am to
False. We may get double secret probation when we get caught cheating next year
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:47 am to
quote:

Honest question about Ole Miss self imposed penalties by russellvillehog
once you go on probation (and you will off the 1st letter) and the second letter comes (and it will) you will get the death penalty per ncaa by laws. congrats Ole miss. you are the new SMU. you get caught cheating. get the NOA and then Tunsil admits to being paid and out comes the second rapid fire.




Thing is, everyone thinks just the Tunsil thing brings about a 2nd letter. The 2nd letter was coming before they ever knew about the draft day stuff. It's more of the same as the first. Several level 1s on down. The admin and coaches already know about what's in it. It's already known Freeze will resign. Tunsil will just be added to it.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:48 am to
Link?
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:25 am to
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Link?


You won't get a link anymore than everything else a few of us know about. We've been right everytime while you've been wrong so don't ask for stupid links as if somehow you rest one more day saying there is no proof.

Go ask your big guys at Ole Miss, they know more than you are being told.

In the meantime we are on to your bs with several of our current commits and what your boosters are doing elsewhere. You guys are going to go down hard because lack of institutional control is very much at OM.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 6:32 am
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:26 am to
In 1984 under Charley Pell UF was handed a crippling blow with 1985-1985 no TV, loss of schollys and three years of probation...stripped of SEC titles in '84 AND'85. Vince Dooley chaired the infractions committee for the SEC and he must have cummed all over himself. We still have the 1984 SEC title trophy...at least UT said they didnt want it and we won it on the field. Most of the violations were minor and didnt include payments to induce recruits...just travel on Steinbrenners private jet etc etc. And one of the charges included the dastardly deed of buying a recruit chewing gum at an airport....thats right folks...buying fricking gum.

What we did pales to Ole Miss accusations. You know WHY UF & SMU were singled out? Hell....Texas & Florida were hotbeds for recruits. The girls school and Diddy Bowden flourished with our penalties and they got recruits we normally would have gotten.

SMU was filthy...but you dont think Texas & OU werent? Prostitutes, houses and payments. Just look at what OU did to sign Marcus Dupree back then...he had offers of cars, women, mobile home for his mom....etc etc. He was a mommas boy, naive and listened to the wrong people, got fat and lazy. A real waste of talent.

Ole Miss wont be punished too hard and it will only give other schools the impression that crime pays. The NCAA wont take away TV appearances like they should because ESPN is driving the bus.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10253 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:40 am to
quote:

It might be me but I think the Ncaa is looking at this as a joke.


Are you so stupid as to think we dropped these penalties out there in a vacuum, without input from the NCAA? Everything that's going to happen has already been orchestrated between the parties. That's how these things work.
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:44 am to
quote:

The 2nd letter was coming before they ever knew about the draft day stuff. It's more of the same as the first. Several level 1s on down. The admin and coaches already know about what's in it. It's already known Freeze will resign. Tunsil will just be added to it.

So, are you saying there will be a third letter now? After the second letter, which has the additional multiple Level Ones that will lead to Freeze resigning? And the third letter will have the Tunsil stuff?

And I'm happy to do a permanent ban bet on Freeze resigning in the next 12 months. Are you in?
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:35 am to
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So, are you saying there will be a third letter now? After the second letter, which has the additional multiple Level Ones that will lead to Freeze resigning? And the third letter will have the Tunsil stuff?


No there is not a 3rd letter but there is a second letter and it's gonna destroy all the spin you hoped would work. Nice try though, if there is one thing I've learned about OM fans is distract.

You win by saying there won't be a 3rd letter to shift attention away from the second letter. Congrats!!!

As you type on a message board in hopes of diverting attention away from what is coming, the Ncaa sees you much like they see the University. Arrogance, lies, thumbing their nose at the Ncaa and spinning.

You guys think you're so smart lying to the media and going all over the net to spin spin spin. Wasted time I tell you because the Ncaa has the goods and no spin will keep you from the mess you created.

The Harvard of the south. What a joke. You guys think highly of yourself don't you. WE ARE OLE MISS!!! Yes you are and we will all chant with you when the hammer comes down.
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