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re: Have most people come to grips with Urban being the GOAT?
Posted on 8/29/15 at 12:45 am to FourThreeForty
Posted on 8/29/15 at 12:45 am to FourThreeForty
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Urban Meyer's best team he's ever had talent wise got murdered on national television by Nick Saban and Alabama, to the point where they didn't score in the second half with 3 AAs on offense and a defense that had all 22 of the previous year's 2 deep coming back.
His best team was 2008. And didn't he just destroy Saban with a third string Qb? Talk about one upping.
As for the alpha male delusion Alabama fans constantly spew because they have no knowledge of what actually happened at UF, that's just false. Urban left for a ton of reasons. UAA and him were uneasy, his treatment of boosters was poor, the fact that UF fans were a little too angry with a near perfect season not being completely perfect, lost control of the locker room and his last few hires hadn't worked out and he knew the pressure to win(especially with Newton leaving) at UF would be to much, and he wasn't liked enough to get a few years to stabilize the program. He won here, but the fans never really liked Urban but we loved winning. So if the winning left, he was in trouble. 2010 showed the issues full strength in terms of the bad hires. His loyalty to Addazio really sunk him. 2009 should have been one of the best college teams in the history of CFB. Returning that many starters from a dominate team. The loss of Mullen, not Harvin, was the reason 2009 UF wasn't nearly as good as it should have been.
This post was edited on 8/29/15 at 12:48 am
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Posted on 8/29/15 at 11:54 am to ChiTownBammer
Idk anymore than you do about him. I was just curious if Bama had played Tulane in recent years.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 1:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Can you really throw stones at a team playing Auburn, Arkansas, Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Texas A&M and Wisconsin when after Michigan State you have Indiana, Minnesota, Michigan, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State and Illinois?
Posted on 8/29/15 at 1:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Urban hasn't failed anywhere
That is correct. You dirty little peasants need to recognize true greatness when it stares you in the face.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 2:03 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
I don't think hes the GOAT. I think he leaves ahead of trouble after winning at all costs at each stop. Hes a very good coach but, I believe there are a few other coaches who could achieve the same or better level of success if given the same level of autonomy to do every dirty thing in the book to get the players on campus and then walk away before the trouble comes. I'm sure he insists on not being questioned on anything regarding the way he runs the football program and I am sure he has a very close relationship (unofficially, of course) with the big boosters. Full cooperation with the big money guys and the bagmen will make success a lot easier to come by. Hes a slimy piece of filth that I wouldn't let my kid within 3 miles of but, he definitely knows how to coach highly compensated amateurs with huge egos into a cohesive unit for a couple of years before his heart starts hurting again or he has to leave to coach at his "dream school" again.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 2:04 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
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GOAT status engaged.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 2:18 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
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Have most people come to grips with Urban being the GOAT?
He's aight...
Posted on 8/29/15 at 3:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Don't tell that to an Alabama fan though.
He's a better coach than Saban for one big reason: Saban couldn't get it done at 2/5 places he has been the head coach at. That's 40% of gigs that saban has failed at. (MSU and Miami)
Urban hasn't failed anywhere.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 3:53 pm to FourThreeForty
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Urban Meyer's best team he's ever had talent wise got murdered on national television by Nick Saban and Alabama, to the point where they didn't score in the second half with 3 AAs on offense and a defense that had all 22 of the previous year's 2 deep coming back.
2008 was his best team... Bama fans trying to inflate how "good" 2009 UF was...
Addazio as OC instead of Mullen... No Harvin... That 2009 UF offense even with Tebow sucked.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 3:59 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Middle Tennessee, ULM, Charleston Southern.
And what powehouse OOC teams are Ohio playing? Hell y'all aren't even playing Wisconsin this year.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 3:59 pm to boXerrumble
TALENT.
I said talent wise buddy. That team's downfall was Addazzio or however you spell that fricker's name. Mullen (and Harvin to an extent) was what separated the two teams.
But otherwise, same thing applies. A senior Heisman winner, all American tight end, and the entire defense back. With Jeff demps, Brandon James, and that other running back whose name escapes me at the moment. It was the same team from the previous year. Minus Harvin and a few others.
I said talent wise buddy. That team's downfall was Addazzio or however you spell that fricker's name. Mullen (and Harvin to an extent) was what separated the two teams.
But otherwise, same thing applies. A senior Heisman winner, all American tight end, and the entire defense back. With Jeff demps, Brandon James, and that other running back whose name escapes me at the moment. It was the same team from the previous year. Minus Harvin and a few others.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 4:01 pm to 3down10
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Every game in the SEC is a championship game.
Ok now that's a stretch.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 4:03 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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The Buckeyes beat Bama with number three quarterback. If Indiana is healthy, Bama probably loses.
I mean they're no powerhouse Virginia Tech but I think Bama wins this one.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 4:09 pm to NFLU
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Saban couldn't get it done at 2/5 places he has been the head coach at. That's 40% of gigs that saban has failed at. (MSU and Miami)
Define 'get it done.' Do you mean win championships? So now we're at the point where a coach has to win a championship to be even remotely successful?
By that standard pretty much all your coaches suck balls.
MSU and the Dolphins weren't winning a championship with Vince Lombardi at the helm. This shite is really getting silly.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 5:46 pm to ChiTownBammer
quote:No. You 'fans' get really insecure if Bama isn't No. 1. Even in gymnastics. Now that's silly.
Define 'get it done.' Do you mean win championships? So now we're at the point where a coach has to win a championship to be even remotely successful?
By that standard pretty much all your coaches suck balls.
MSU and the Dolphins weren't winning a championship with Vince Lombardi at the helm. This shite is really getting silly.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 5:49 pm to ChiTownBammer
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Bama lost the game. Ohio State played better and deserved to win. But if a game that literally went down to a last-second heave into the end zone is a destruction then what do you call what Bama did to your team when they played last?
it was destruction in the same sense that 21-0 was. honestly a much different game than the score showed
Posted on 8/29/15 at 5:52 pm to bmy
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it was destruction in the same sense that 21-0 was. honestly a much different game than the score showed
NOTHING approaches 21-0 in terms of destruction. LSU still hasn't recovered from it.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 5:53 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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NOTHING approaches 21-0 in terms of destruction. LSU still hasn't recovered from it.
that's because of context, not the actual game. LSU was as much in the game in the 4th quarter as Alabama was against Ohio St
the context is what was damn near program crushing about 21-0
hardest schedule of any team in recent history, lose starting QB, go 12-0, win the SEC for 13-0, then have a re-match against the SEC-west runner up who you beat in their house and has had multiple weeks of extra practice and rest? ouch.
This post was edited on 8/29/15 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 8/29/15 at 6:21 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
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Posted on 8/29/15 at 6:23 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
I don't know about the greatest of all time he sure did run Florida In the ground, and hauled arse!The players was already there for him at Ohio State and Florida. We'll see how he is in three years
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