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"Gus gave LSU the game" myth

Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by jbrau22
Waco, TX
Member since Jun 2007
2134 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:47 pm
There are many Aubie's that were using this line to discredit the awesome effort LSU made to come back in that game on Saturday. Some were even saying Auburn is "clearly better" and "everything bounced perfectly" for LSU to win the game. So much so that I actually began to believe it.

Then I went back and watched the game again (was in the stadium the first time, hence why I believed the Aub's bc of the emotions of watching live and in person).

The argument was that Auburn went "super conservative" and "sat on the lead" in the second half. When all reality was, they continued the same offensive gameplan that worked so well in the first half. There was no change in philosophy. Just a correction/adjustment in the LSU defensive game plan.

Auburn threw the ball on first down 3 times in the first half (2 in the first series). They were unsuccessful 2 of the 3 times setting themselves up in 2nd and long. In the second half they threw on first down 2 times (the last 2 series).

They did not throw slants or use the middle of the field in the second half, no, but neither did they in the first half. They did throw some short passes but they were defended much better in the second half.

You just got shut down. You got beat. You weren't the better team. You didn't become less aggressive. Hell you tried to throw the ball downfield more in the second half then the first. Your qb/passing offense just isn't very good. And we shut down the run.

Sorry...I never rant like this. Just wanted to throw the narrative off bc it is being repeated ignorantly all over.

Have a great day!
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18149 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:48 pm to
Gus lost the game.. 23 points in the first half, zero in the second.. very predictable.. everyone saw it... LSU took advantage and made some plays. Fire GUS>
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28896 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:50 pm to
So you're in favor of a Coach O contract extension, right?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62698 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:50 pm to
Once something that was working stops working, adjustments must be made. Did he? I'm not so sure.
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:50 pm to
TLDR QQ
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:51 pm to
auburns game plan on both sides of the ball were pretty much identical. actually, I could understand the offense wanting to burn the clock but their defense did not make any adjustments at all.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Member since May 2014
6952 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:52 pm to
That loss was on Auburn’s coaches. LSU is not the 1st team to shut down auburn in the 2nd half. Numerous examples over the past few years - Georgia, Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc.
Posted by jbrau22
Waco, TX
Member since Jun 2007
2134 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Once something that was working stops working, adjustments must be made. Did he? I'm not so sure.


I hear that. Honestly the way it looks, they don't trust Stidham. Do you blame them? This guy is no good shakes. (This is not me saying I think Etling is any better)
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8881 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:54 pm to
The argument that Gus didn't make any adjustments once LSU made theirs is 100% valid.

The argument that AU threw away their Gameplan and went super conservative is false.
Posted by MistaMike9
Member since Mar 2017
607 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:54 pm to
Wah Wah Wah! Lets fire Gus
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18293 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:55 pm to
quote:


The argument that AU threw away their Gameplan and went super conservative is false.




That's an inaccurate statement.
Posted by jbrau22
Waco, TX
Member since Jun 2007
2134 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

quote:

The argument that AU threw away their Gameplan and went super conservative is false.



That's an inaccurate statement.



I provided you evidence that this wasn't the case. Show me where the gameplan became more conservative in the second half?
Posted by jbrau22
Waco, TX
Member since Jun 2007
2134 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

The argument that Gus didn't make any adjustments once LSU made theirs is 100% valid.


This part I agree with. But is it because Stidham can't do it or because Gus is an idiot? I think they went with what their best option was, at least how they saw it.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48872 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

The argument that AU threw away their Gameplan and went super conservative is false.



You must have stopped watching after the 1st quarter
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

So you're in favor of a Coach O contract extension, right?

Look at this Auburn guy trying to mock the coach that just embarrassed Auburn
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:07 pm to
It can be both, you know. It's a rare comeback that doesn't have elements of both success on one side and failure on the other. It's not like Auburn handed LSU the game, but LSU certainly didn't somehow impose their will on Auburn either.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8881 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:09 pm to
According to AU fans, the fact that your offense worked in the 1st Q and was stopped the rest of the game means that you went conservative when reality is that your game plan worked for a quarter and a half, then LSU adjusted to it, then Auburn was shut down the rest of the game.

Your game plan didn't change, we just adjusted to stop it.

Thus, the argument that Gus made no adjustments is true, the argument that y'all changed course to become conservative is false.

The proof is in the pudding. Go re watch the game if you can stomach it and you'll see that your play calling was the same in the first quarter as it was in the rest of the game, it just worked early on and got shut down for the rest of the game.

#FACTS
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36186 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:11 pm to
What it boils down to is Auburn basically beat themselves and LSU was the beneficiary in the end.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73354 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Once something that was working stops working, adjustments must be made. Did he? I'm not so sure.


Exactly. The LSU coaches did make adjustments and the players gave their all for the remaining 2/3 of the game. LSU earned that win.
This post was edited on 10/16/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36186 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Exactly. The LSU coaches did make adjustments and the players gave there all for the remaining 2/3 of the game. LSU earned that win.

If that makes you sleep better at night.
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