re: Georiga rule proposal

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Yet y'all are the disciplinarians? LOL

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The bad stuff happens in Athens.

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I think his bigger issue was being a black man driving a purple charger in South Ga. That will get you pulled over for a good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all. unfortunately!

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The cops in the town where he was pulled over are notorious for pulling everybody over, not just black guys. They make their money on those citations. You better be damn sure you've got all your lights working and are driving 5 miles under the speed limit when you roll there.

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He got a citation for weed residue

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So he already smoked it, and was driving? He should have known better than to do that. Of course, he should have known better than to steal as well.

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So he already smoked it, and was driving? He should have known better than to do that. Of course, he should have known better than to steal as well.

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Mike Bobo should have known better than to run from the cops after fighting in Athens. shite happens. I don't think anyone thinks Nick Marshall is a bad human being. He's kinda dumb, but he's not a bad person. Contrast that with the 4 we kicked off a few years ago, or Mike Dyer (who may not be a bad person, but certainly struggled to learn from mistakes).

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I think UGA has the same cultural issues, although I don't really "blame" Richt for them.

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goes back to my point, every university on earth with thousands (or in the case of a football team, hundreds) of 17-21 year olds is going to have people act up. But you don't hear about it as much as other schools, and it damn sure isn't because it's not happening. Look at some of our notable arrests lately:

-backing into a parked car in a parking garage
-failing to attend court to pay a speeding ticket (which was in possession of the player's brother, so he didn't even know he had court)
-improper scooter license
-driving the wrong way down a 300 foot length of one way street
-passing out on a toilet in a restaurant
-jaywalking
-dorm RA finding an empty weed bag in a player's trash can in their room


These are all incredibly stupid things, but it still makes the papers, they still get punished, and it counts in the fulmer cup so it just makes people think that UGA has such a thug problem. Do you honestly think that if all those things above happened in tuscaloosa or auburn that they'd make news, or even register on a scale outside the town? Hell no. I mean at LSU and UT you have star players getting in fights outside of bars and assaulting people and knocking out police officers, or even holding up a gas station. Those players received very little in the way of punishment, whereas at UGA it would be a no questions asked dismissal. We had a guy a few years back hit a dude in the face at a pool party..instant dismissal. We had a promising 4* linebacker a few years back get a first offense DUI..instant dismissal. We had another promising 4* linebacker grab someone's wrist in a class to take his pencil back...instant dismissal.

Anyone who thinks we have a thug culture just doens't realize that it appears that way because we actually address the problems instead of ignoring them.

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Yeah, us and every other school do nefarious shite to avoid having our players test positive and UGA is the only school that doesn't.

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When yall drug test football players the Monday after spring break get back to me bruh

I don't think you have a thug culture. I think you have a stale program with tired leadership that results in players who don't always give a shite or buy into what is being sold.

Sometimes that happens quickly (Chizik) and almost all of the time it happens eventually (long term coaches like Richt, Tuberville, etc.)

But yes, I also agree that in Athens players get popped for some dumb stuff too.

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I don't think anyone thinks Nick Marshall is a bad human being.

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I would agree. He's made some poor decisions which all kids do, but no, he's not a bad human being.

EVERY school has it's share of problems...and Ia ctually think Pettifogger has a point about long term coaches having problems. Not all, but many. Look at bowden, Richt and most coaches that have been at schools for long periods of time. A certain complacency sets in around the program. People relax and people get into trouble. We are talking about 18-22 year old kids here. At that age they are looking to have fun and that, generally, leads to trouble. They make poor decisions. It happens at Georgia....Auburn...Alabama...LSU...everywhere to a certain extent.


Fortunately, UGA SEEMS to have a breath of fresh air blowing through the program right now. Let's hope it carries over into fewer problems.

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A certain complacency sets in around the program. People relax and people get into trouble

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Just depends on who you have on staff. When richt got here in 01 he was the exact same type of person/coach he is now. But we have vangorder and players were absolutely terrified of him, so they fell in line. When he left we have martinez, who is the same as richt, so we had a lot of problems. When he left we got grantham who started to change things a bit, but he was still kind of a joke so it didn't fully take. Now we have pruitt and it's working wonders.

If you have a laid back HC, you better have people on staff who instill the fear.

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He did let his teammates down with the weed thing, and according to his coaches and teammates, that had a big impact on him.

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Yet stealing from his teammates at UGA didn't have an impact on him?

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if we hand pick Nick Marshalls and Cam Newtons and they become better guys

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I don't agree with this at all. How is nick marshall a "better guy" now than he was in Athens, simply because he didn't steal from his teammates again? I mean think about it, if you commit a crime (any crime...dui, theft, murder, etc) and get punished pretty severely for it, odds are you are going to be far, far less likely to do that again.