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re: Georgia vs Georgia Tech || Comparing the SEC schedule to the ACC schedule
Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:42 am to msuboss71
Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:42 am to msuboss71
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Tech sold their soul to the devil when they left the SEC. The coach at the time got tired of playing Alabama. Makes you wonder what could've been for them
He didn't want to stockpile players and do things like Alabama.
Tech is a more respected school in what it does than any SEC school is in what they do.
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but their football team whaaaaaaaaa
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:05 am to Cheese Grits
Clemson vs GA Tech:
29 Clemson (about 35% wins all time)
51 GA Tech (about 62% wins all time)
2 ties all time so 82 games all time
1898 - 1963
24.24% || 8 Clemson wins
72.72% || 24 GA Tech Wins
03.03% || 1 tie
1964 - 1982 :: GA Tech owns Clemson / IND
21.42% || 3 Clemson wins
71.42% || 10 GA Tech wins
07.14% || 1 tie
1983 - 2016 :: Pretty damned even / ACC
51.42% || 18 Clemson wins
48.57% || 17 GA Tech wins
so we can see that Clemson, until recently, has not been very good or competitive
Even when they were cheating worse than Ole Miss & won a Natty back in 1981; GA Tech owned them
Since GA Tech joined the ACC; the series has been even
So, Clemson, who is a "power football school" for the ACC has only been able to "hold serve" against a "weak" GA Tech in conference play
Of course, UGA has dominated GA Tech in that same time period
Obvious conclusion???
SEC > ACC
and UGA > Clementine
thanks for starting this historical conversation Grits!
29 Clemson (about 35% wins all time)
51 GA Tech (about 62% wins all time)
2 ties all time so 82 games all time
1898 - 1963
24.24% || 8 Clemson wins
72.72% || 24 GA Tech Wins
03.03% || 1 tie
1964 - 1982 :: GA Tech owns Clemson / IND
21.42% || 3 Clemson wins
71.42% || 10 GA Tech wins
07.14% || 1 tie
1983 - 2016 :: Pretty damned even / ACC
51.42% || 18 Clemson wins
48.57% || 17 GA Tech wins
so we can see that Clemson, until recently, has not been very good or competitive
Even when they were cheating worse than Ole Miss & won a Natty back in 1981; GA Tech owned them
Since GA Tech joined the ACC; the series has been even
So, Clemson, who is a "power football school" for the ACC has only been able to "hold serve" against a "weak" GA Tech in conference play
Of course, UGA has dominated GA Tech in that same time period
Obvious conclusion???
SEC > ACC
and UGA > Clementine
thanks for starting this historical conversation Grits!
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:08 am to dcbl
Wow I never realized tech dominated them that bad 
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:13 am to Ramblin Wreck
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Anybody ever hear of Notre Dame, Arkansas, Tennessee, .......
So, in your world GT belongs in the same conversation with Notre Dame, Arkansas and Tennessee?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:15 am to gthog61
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Tech is a more respected school in what it does than any SEC school is in what they do.
No. GT is at best in the top 20-30 in Universities academically in the country. Name a school that is better than Alabama is football over the last 10 years?
You set the standards, not me.
ETA
Oh, and by the way....Vanderbilt is tied for 14th in the Nation academically in the country while GT is 34th. So lets get off that high horse you are riding before you fall off and get hurt.
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This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 7:19 am
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:18 am to DawgsLife
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So, in your world GT belongs in the same conversation with Notre Dame, Arkansas and Tennessee?
Tech is way better than Arky, that goes for historically and right now
Tennessee edges Tech all time, but the 2 are pretty even right now
ND? Way better all time, but the programs are very even now
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:30 am to dcbl
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Tech is way better than Arky, that goes for historically and right now
This I can see and agree.
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Tennessee edges Tech all time, but the 2 are pretty even right now
You can't use one criteria for Arkansas and another for Tennessee. If we are going to use all time, then Tennessee is a much better program, and GT does not belong in the conversation. If we are going to use only the present, the GT can be in the conversation with all three.
However, here is the post I was referring to:
Georgia Tech had a legendary coach, he retires and they have a bunch of unsuccessful coaches. Most programs in the SEC have had similar histories. Am I missing something here?
Anybody ever hear of Notre Dame, Arkansas, Tennessee, .......
He was clearly talking about historically. GT does not belong in the same sentence as Tennessee or Notre Dame historically. (Maybe I am inflating Tennessee historically, but I think they are much better. I will look them up)
ETA
Pertaining to GT/Tenn
I must admit they are closer historically than I thought. Same in National Championships and Conference Championships. Tennessee does have about 100 more wins overall, but other than that very, very close.
My apologies for shorting GT, and good catch DCBL
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 7:36 am
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:37 am to DawgsLife
I have to agree with this
But before Tech left the SEC, they were close to Tenn
After they left, not so much - the period between 1964 - 1989 pushed Tech out of the "national power" discussion, but they are still a top 25 program all time
Last decade or so? Even
But before Tech left the SEC, they were close to Tenn
After they left, not so much - the period between 1964 - 1989 pushed Tech out of the "national power" discussion, but they are still a top 25 program all time
Last decade or so? Even
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:39 am to dcbl
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I have to agree with this
But before Tech left the SEC, they were close to Tenn
After they left, not so much - the period between 1964 - 1989 pushed Tech out of the "national power" discussion, but they are still a top 25 program all time
Last decade or so? Even
Yep. I will admit when I am wrong, and you were right....I was wrong.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:44 am to DawgsLife
Meh, not worried about "being right"
The real point is, Clemson's inflated sense of importance is WAY overblown
Where did all the Taters in this thread go
The real point is, Clemson's inflated sense of importance is WAY overblown
Where did all the Taters in this thread go
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 7:44 am
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:44 am to IStillMissDanny
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IStillMissDanny
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Yeah, it's not. At all.
I see the truth hurts
6 downvotes
1 up vote (probably your own)
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keep the history lessons coming
Be glad to
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Grand Poobah.
More like Winnie the Poobah
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:58 am to gthog61
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Tech is a more respected school
Nobody is arguing what they do academically, but apples to oranges
Georgia = top academic school for traditional education
Georgia Tech = top academic school for tech
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He didn't want to stockpile players and do things like Alabama.
So says you. When I was young, Tech was the Notre Dame of the south and pretty serious about football till Bama made them quit. Would be the same as if Florida dropped football because Saban is here now. Difference is back then a coach could drop a school from a conference and no way they let a coach have that much power with all the money on the table now.
Dodds said later one of the worst mistakes he ever made was leaving the SEC.
Georgia Tech would have been good academically in the SEC or ACC because they could hold their own like Tulane (in the SEC) or Vanderbilt. Unlike what the B1G folks like to say, some schools are the stars (Like Michigan and Wisconsin) and some were state party schools at least until the 80's (Like Ohio State and Indiana).
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:33 am to Cheese Grits
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I see the truth hurts
6 downvotes
1 up vote (probably your own)
A Clemson guy who doesn't kiss arse getting down voted by the Rant's nursing home crowd proves that's the truth?
History lessons from the '50s matter for arguments on message boards to people who have no other way to put another group down. I've never actually heard anyone in a sports bar arguing records from seventy years ago, and I would guarantee you that the recruits today (the ones playing the games) are more concerned with what happened last week than last century. Like it or not, the world has moved on from gathering around the fireside minstrel to social media. It's immediate and visual, and what drives the train.
I'm glad clutching these hundred year old records in your liver spotted hands gives you a reason to get out of bed though.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:42 am to Cheese Grits
very interesting....did you come up with this while the dick was in your mouth or hand??
oh, and don't let the trophy disturb you so badly sunshine.
oh, and don't let the trophy disturb you so badly sunshine.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:46 am to IStillMissDanny
I understand your point, but football didn't start 3 years ago, either.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:50 am to DawgsLife
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I understand your point, but football didn't start 3 years ago, either.
Yeah, he wants to gloss over that part by attacking the pre 70's numbers but totally ignoring the past decade or two because South Carolina has gained much ground since joint the SEC and he is whistling past the graveyard.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:50 am to Cheese Grits
its clear you don't have much of a life and i'm hear to help you.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:57 am to theclash
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oh, and don't let the trophy disturb you so badly sunshine.
Do you meant the single one from last year?
I grew up with Adolph Rupp and Bear Bryant at Kentucky. Alabama and Kentucky have lots of those trophies. The more you post the more your new money butthurt comes out. It is pretty amusing you make such a big deal about 1.
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very interesting
yes, and your weak retort and attempt at insults show how you were rustled and also shows you have no facts to reply with that are not for a single year or two.
You are the sunshine pumper in the thread.
I did find this pic of you tho
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:01 am to Cheese Grits
its also clear you have never played sports. i would like you to examine teams and records over past 5 years. thats a good snapshot - in all of business. 3 years is the norm. but its clear you're not bright. and do a little digging in college football and tell us what you see. in the meantime, take the balls out of your mouth. playing on the internet is for children kiddo.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:02 am to theclash
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its clear you don't have much of a life and i'm hear to help you.
It is clear you have poor english and spelling skills, that Tater degree must be a comfort to you. As for me, I am retired and lived a hell of a life so you "helping" me is amusing. You must be the "special snowflake" and "participation ribbon" group that thinks they know everything but have yet to do anything. No wonder China will own us in a generation. I will be dead and gone by then and will not have to see how much you crapped up the "golden goose" America was when you were born.
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