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Georgia vs Georgia Tech || Comparing the SEC schedule to the ACC schedule

Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:55 pm
65 Georgia (about 61% wins all time)
41 Georgia Tech (about 39% wins all time)
5 ties all time so 111 games all time


1893 - 1963 :: Georgia and Georgia Tech are evenly matched with both in SEC
44.83% || 26 Georgia wins
46.55% || 27 Georgia Tech wins
08.62% || 5 ties

1964 - 1982 :: Georgia owns Georgia Tech / IND
78.95% || 15 Georgia wins
21.05% || 4 Georgia Tech wins

1983 - 2016 :: Georgia owns Georgia Tech / ACC
71.43% || 25 Georgia wins
28.57% || 10 Georgia Tech wins

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:57 pm to
I don't really know what the SEC and the ACC have to do with it.

Georgia Tech was a national football program. Bobby Dodd got pissed at Bryant and the league, overestimated his and Tech's national appeal, bolted, and Tech has never recovered from a football (or overall athletic department) standpoint.

It's not like they were losing to Georgia but setting the ACC on fire for the last 30 years.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:58 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:00 pm to
Seems like Georgia can't handle in conference competition.

Nothing has changed in over 100 years.
Posted by jlnoles79
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:02 pm to
Crazy that Tech has a more recent natty than UGA
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

I don't really know what the SEC and the ACC have to do with it.


With the Holgerson talk of going to 9 games and the Tater talk about how the ACC and the Taters are better than sliced bread, just thought it would be interesting to see how Georgia Tech fared after leaving the SEC and using their annual game with Georgia as a base mark.

If Georgia Tech was better as an IND or the ACC was better than the SEC, then Georgia Tech should have dominated Georgia once they left the SEC, yet the exact opposite happened. So when a person from the B12 opens his yap, he needs to shut it. When a Tater comes on tRant and says how Clemson would beat all the SEC teams as a SEC member, they are clearly not correct.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

If Georgia Tech was better as an IND or the ACC was better than the SEC, then Georgia Tech should have dominated Georgia once they left the SEC, yet the exact opposite happened. So when a person from the B12 opens his yap, he needs to shut it. When a Tater comes on tRant and says how Clemson would beat all the SEC teams as a SEC member, they are clearly not correct.


Except, I'm guessing if you compared win %s against Georgia to win %s against the ACC equivalent of the Big 6 (Clemson, FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, etc, depending on what year you start) that they'd be pretty similar.

Like I said, it's not like Tech is going 6-2/7-1 in the ACC everywhere and then getting hammered by Georgia. They have been pretty meh since they won the title in 1990, and they were awful almost every single year from about 1975 to 1989.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:08 pm to
Then post the Clemson - USC stats.
Posted by IStillMissDanny
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

just thought it would be interesting to see how Georgia Tech fared after leaving the SEC and using their annual game with Georgia as a base mark.


Yeah, it's not. At all. But keep the weird history lessons coming, Grand Poobah.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:11 pm to
Georgia Tech from 1967 to 1989 (post-Bobby Dodd) (23 seasons)
- 116-132 (47%)
- 5 Bowl Games
- finished ranked in the Top 25 2 times in 23 years

They were a disaster
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:12 pm to
Georgia Tech had a legendary coach, he retires and they have a bunch of unsuccessful coaches. Most programs in the SEC have had similar histories. Am I missing something here?

Anybody ever hear of Notre Dame, Arkansas, Tennessee, .......
Posted by IStillMissDanny
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:13 pm to
Doesn't fit the narrative. Move along, please.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:14 pm to

Georgia Tech is much more comparative to Ole Miss than any of those schools. Nationally competitive until roughly integration, their big coach retires, national relevance never returns (outside of 1 random season in 1990).
Posted by Barstools
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Crazy that Tech has a more recent natty* than UGA


*split
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

Then post the Clemson - USC stats.


42 South Carolina (about 39% wins all time)
68 Clemson (about 61% wins all time)
4 ties all time so 87 games all time


1896 - 1991 :: Clemson has clear edge prior to SC joining SEC
35.96% || 32 South Carolina wins
59.55% || 53 Clemson wins
04.49% || 4 ties

1992 - 2004 :: Clemson dominates SC in early SEC years (13 games)
30.77% || 4 South Carolina wins
69.23% || 9 Clemson wins

2005 - 2016 :: Equal wins once SC ramps up in SEC (12 games)
50.00% || 6 South Carolina wins
50.00% || 6 Clemson wins
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

Georgia Tech had a legendary coach


Tech had 3 legendary coaches in the SEC, each won a Natty

John Heisman = MNC in 1917, HoF in 1954
William Alexander = MNC in 1928, HoF in 1951
Bobby Dodd = MNC in 1952, HoF in 1993

In the ACC they won a split MNC in 1990 (because CU got "5th down")
Bobby Ross is not in the HoF but has numerous coaching awards
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

Tech had 3 legendary coaches in the SEC, each won a Natty


I think he meant in the semi-modern era
Posted by IStillMissDanny
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

42 South Carolina (about 39% wins all time)
68 Clemson (about 61% wins all time)
4 ties all time so 87 games all time

1896 - 1991 :: Clemson has clear edge prior to SC joining SEC
35.96% || 32 South Carolina wins
59.55% || 53 Clemson wins 04.49% || 4 ties

1992 - 2004 :: Clemson dominates SC in early SEC years (13 games)
30.77% || 4 South Carolina wins
69.23% || 9 Clemson wins

2005 - 2016 :: Equal wins once SC ramps up in SEC (12 games)
50.00% || 6 South Carolina wins
50.00% || 6 Clemson wins


You're absolutely right; these programs are on exactly the same level and path right now. It took 13 years to "ramp up"? Lol. Pretty random timeframes you've chosen.

Are y'all in "ramp down" phase now?
Posted by msuboss71
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:20 am to
Tech sold their soul to the devil when they left the SEC. The coach at the time got tired of playing Alabama. Makes you wonder what could've been for them
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:32 am to
quote:

quote: just thought it would be interesting to see how Georgia Tech fared after leaving the SEC and using their annual game with Georgia as a base mark.



Yeah, it's not. At all. But keep the weird history lessons coming, Grand Poobah.


Oh, it's interesting alright

For fun, do we wanna do GA Tech vs Clemson over that same time period???
Posted by DawgHolliday
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:32 am to
Couple of points:

1 - every UGA - Tech game was played in Atlanta prior to 1929 (UGA had no stadium). Not sure how much of a factor crowd noise was in those days, but still. No home games over the fist 30+ years of the rivalry may have counted for something.

2 - why not just cut to the chase and do UGA vs Clemson? Seems a more direct path, IMO.
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