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re: Georgia proposes SEC ban transfers already booted for assault/domestic violence
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:09 pm to AthDawg7
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:09 pm to AthDawg7
quote:Are you? You nor anyone else on here knows what is said when the coaches and players talk after they get in trouble. You don't know if the coaches walk in and say bye or the players leave on their own after getting in trouble and the school just claims they were dismissed to make them look better.
Are you really that stupid? The players are not transferring out on their own they are kicked off the team. Even if they wanted to stay they can't because they have been dismissed.
I promise you the only reason Richt cares about this is that other SEC schools are benefiting from his players leaving. If it was only because the players were bad seeds he would do more to keep his players in line and you wouldnt see so many turning into trouble makers under him.
If this rule passes to govern the schools they might as well pass a rule that makes players that get in trouble automatically ineligible even if the school decides they don't want to dismiss them and not just punish ones who are on teams that kick them off.
This post was edited on 5/24/15 at 3:15 pm
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Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:09 pm to SavageOrangeJug
This is a good thing.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:15 pm to Johnny Ringo
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Maybe Georgia shouldn't introduce these derelicts to the conference to begin with
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derelicts
Doesn't mean what you think it does.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:15 pm to Rabern57
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Are you? You nor anyone else on here knows what is said when the coaches and players talk after they get in trouble. You don't if the coaches walk in and say bye or the players leave on their own and the school just claims they were dismissed.
Taylor was dismissed from Georgia about an hour after posting bail. Yes, we do know that he was kicked off the team.
He most definitely did not voluntarily transfer with unknown options while facing felony assault charges.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:21 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:It's still just basing it off what you think happened. They could have talked and he snapped on the coaches who might have kept him til then. It's all guessing.
Taylor was dismissed from Georgia about an hour after posting bail. Yes, we do know that he was kicked off the team.
But either way. If they include the players that coaches want to keep even after they get in trouble then I'm all for the rule. Make them automatically ineligible to play for any SEC school including the one they are on at the time and it will be a good rule. Otherwise let the schools do what they want like now.
This post was edited on 5/24/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:26 pm to Rabern57
This proposal isn't talking about your run of the mill college miscreant getting popped for one or four misdemeanors. It's mainly talking about violent offenses. This isn't for guys that coaches want to keep around their programs.
I think colleges should be able to make their own choices, but I think the motivation for starting the discussion is reasonable.
I think colleges should be able to make their own choices, but I think the motivation for starting the discussion is reasonable.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:28 pm to Rabern57
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It's still just basing it off what you think happened. They could have talked and he snapped on the coaches who might have kept him til then. It's all guessing.
It's a very reasonable, logical, and well-informed guess. The school, his HS coach, Taylor himself, have all made comments on it.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:29 pm to Emanonion
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derelicts
Doesn't mean what you think it does.
One of Mugatus fashion lines.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:35 pm to harmonics
Florida St is gonna be even better when they get all the kids kicked out of the SEC.
I don't like this rule. If a kid gets his shite together I have no problem with another team giving them a second chance.
I don't like this rule. If a kid gets his shite together I have no problem with another team giving them a second chance.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:38 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:You obviously have to have guidelines for which crimes but if a coach kicks one guy for a crime and wants to keep another for the same thing then neither should be allowed to play anywhere in the SEC. If you are going to have different standards then you can't have a rule like this.
This proposal isn't talking about your run of the mill college miscreant getting popped for one or four misdemeanors. It's mainly talking about violent offenses. This isn't for guys that coaches want to keep around their programs.
As far those type guys Saban wanted him around his program after that. Just like he took back a player that got kicked off his own team for robbing people earlier when he wouldn't be eligible to play for another SEC school by the rule.
This post was edited on 5/24/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:38 pm to Rabern57
Well in your last post you seemed pretty positive that the players transfer on their own. Do you honestly think Richt wanted to keep Nick Marshall on the team after he stole from teammates? I think the majority of people would agree that the players are kicked off the team by the coaching staff but you can believe whatever you want.
If Richt really only cared about other SEC schools benefitting then he would put restrictions on the schools a player could transfer to. Like Malzahn is doing with Derrick Moncrief. It's selfish IMO. Especially since Moncrief didn't do anything wrong he just wants to play somewhere else
If Richt really only cared about other SEC schools benefitting then he would put restrictions on the schools a player could transfer to. Like Malzahn is doing with Derrick Moncrief. It's selfish IMO. Especially since Moncrief didn't do anything wrong he just wants to play somewhere else
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:49 pm to AthDawg7
quote:I didn't say no player was ever kicked by a coach or that Taylor wasn't. I said you can't know for sure what all happened that led to the players getting to stay or not. You can't have a situation where a player is kicked for arguing over the situation when he was going to get to stay if he done a list of things and instead have the school take credit for kicking for the crime instead to make themselves look better. That players was kicked for refusing to do what he was asked and not for committing the crime.
Well in your last post you seemed pretty positive that the players transfer on their own. Do you honestly think Richt wanted to keep Nick Marshall on the team after he stole from teammates? I think the majority of people would agree that the players are kicked off the team by the coaching staff but you can believe whatever you want.
It's why I said if you are going to punish some players for it you should punish them all.
quote:Gus isn't restricting DM from going to Michigan where he wanted. And for the record I don't think any coach should be allowed to restrict a player from going anywhere.
If Richt really only cared about other SEC schools benefitting then he would put restrictions on the schools a player could transfer to. Like Malzahn is doing with Derrick Moncrief. It's selfish IMO. Especially since Moncrief didn't do anything wrong he just wants to play somewhere else
This post was edited on 5/24/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:52 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Because they benefit from it and don't want to lose their pipeline.
Maybe y'all should chill out on bringing in thugs that other institutions have to rehabilitate.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 4:03 pm to junkfunky
I'm all for it,though I'm sure Louisville and Petrino are salivating at the thought too, unscrupulous bastards that they are.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 4:09 pm to AthDawg7
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Like Malzahn is doing with Derrick Moncrief. It's selfish IMO. Especially since Moncrief didn't do anything wrong he just wants to play somewhere else
He put the same restrictions that anybody else puts on transfers. No SEC schools and no one we're playing for the next two years. The Michigan thing was false
Posted on 5/24/15 at 4:21 pm to AthDawg7
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If Richt really only cared about other SEC schools benefitting then he would put restrictions on the schools a player could transfer to
FWIW... When you kick off players like, Nick Marshall, Tray Matthews, JH Clemmons, Jon Taylor, Mett, Crow etc... you can't restrict where they go...
The only player UGA coulda put restrictions on in the last 3-4 years is Shaq Wiggins who transferred to Louisville (which I wish we woulda done cause... frick Petrino)....
This post was edited on 5/24/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 5/24/15 at 5:25 pm to Rabern57
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schools they might as well pass a rule that makes players that get in trouble automatically ineligible even if the school decides they don't want to dismiss them and not just punish ones who are on teams that kick them off.
Agree 100%, if the crime is considered bad enough that if they are kicked off the current team they can't transfer then they should be automatically dismissed from the current team.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 5:34 pm to SavageOrangeJug
kind of funny that Mr Christian doesnt believe in second chances. 
Posted on 5/24/15 at 5:53 pm to SavageOrangeJug
This will kill Auburn's recruiting.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 6:37 pm to Weagle25
You are right, they should be eligible to play football. They can go to a D2 school or just hope for the best at the draft. Professional athletics is a profession, they have a set of rules of conduct that is somewhat variable based on your abilities to produce money. Just like most other professions. College athletics is NOT a profession, it is a privilege, especially at the Power 5 conference level.
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