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Georgia fans... what about Hines Ward for WR coach?

Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:57 pm
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Does this have legs?
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:59 pm to
He obviously wants to do it but we have a Wr coach, so.......hopefully after our we coach becomes an oc elsewhere.
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:01 pm to
He would be an awesome guy to learn from
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:16 pm to
Could be awesome, but you'd think he'd know that he needs to start closer to the bottom than a position coach role at a major program right out of the gate. Coaching isn't as easy as it looks. If he's managed his NFL (and dancing ) money well, he can afford to tag along with the UGA staff and get a feel for the work first.
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:21 pm to
I love Hines but I think he needs to prove he can actually coach and recruit the position before we drop some cash on him
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:32 pm to
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Coaching isn't as easy as it look


Coaching the position of wr by a former a professional wr who is obviously well spoken is likely pretty easy.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:59 pm to
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Coaching the position of wr by a former a professional wr who is obviously well spoken is likely pretty easy.


Not necessarily. Doing something well doesn't mean you'll necessarily be able to teach someone else to do the same thing well, especially with an activity that can't be replicated by rote. Teaching requires certain skills that don't just "happen" because you're good at the subject.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:09 pm to
Of course it's not for everyone, but Knowledge of the position, a strong work ethic, and the ability to verbalize it are what coaching requires, and ward has all three.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:14 pm to
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ability to verbalize it

Eloquent public speaking =/= translating technique to young athletes in digestible bits of content. I'm all for the idea of bringing him in as a recruiting resource/QC guy and seeing what he brings to the table. Coley could handle other positions as well, so were we to lose an offensive staff member anytime in the next couple of seasons, could be an opportunity to promote him from there. I agree that he shouldn't need the money, so one would assume he could afford to take the "entry" route from a financial standpoint... just a matter of whether the ego would allow it. Continuing to publicly state this though isn't helping his case... Have the conversation behind closed doors with Kirby and come up with a mutual plan on how he can help...
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:24 pm to
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Of course it's not for everyone, but Knowledge of the position, a strong work ethic, and the ability to verbalize it are what coaching requires, and ward has all three.


It's not quite as simple as that but I suspect that this is one of those situations where, if you don't already know it, I'm not going to be able to convince you otherwise. The factors you name are certainly major prerequisites; they just aren't guarantees of being successful. Which was my original point. Hines Ward could turn out to be a great coach...in theory. Practice, however, is a bit more complex, and, unless he's taken leave of his senses, no serious head coach in the country is going to throw someone who has never coached before into a major position coach role from the get-go. And with good reason.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:37 pm to
I'd be worried about how willing he'd be to put in the hours on the road recruiting.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:45 am to
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It's not quite as simple as that....I'm not going to be able to convince you otherwise.


If you had some really good points, you could convince me, so lets see them:

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The factors you name are certainly major prerequisites


Really good point! Glad we agree. What else is a major prereq for WR coaching that we have yet to discuss?

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Practice, however, is a bit more complex


Eh, I don't think I agree with this. What is so complex about coaching WR's?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:48 am to
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I'd be worried about how willing he'd be to put in the hours on the road recruiting.


Not me. He respects the game and loves UGA, so I bet he would bust his arse, almost as if he were practicing to play in the Super Bowl.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:56 am to
nobody's arguing against you dumbass. Just because you're good at something and you can put a sentence together doesn't automatically mean you can teach it. Yes ward has the qualifications. But teaching is very difficult. He may be good at it (I've got nothing against him he is an excellent player and role model), but teaching takes practice, and I doubt that the best place to practice right off the bat is at a SEC school (alma mater no less) with newfound high expectations
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 12:58 am
Posted by 83dawg
Cumming, GA.
Member since Sep 2012
803 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 3:28 am to
Just think about the recruiting he could do? Dayum
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:29 am to
I bet he could spot talent too. I just think he'd be the kind of guy that would represent the school well on the recruiting trail - AND - recruits would be in awe of him
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:45 am to
The best thing about Hines was his ability to block. If he could teach that to recievers it give an edge to our guys. He was just a tough SOB.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32777 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:59 am to
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teaching is very difficult.


This would be a good point if we were talking about teaching calculus to a disinterested teen but we are talking about teaching wide receiver.
Posted by Ol'DirtyCam
Madtown
Member since Jul 2013
1167 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:15 am to
Ain't no way I would hire a guy and make him a position coach right off the bat. These coaches have a serious grind throughout the season. He needs to do it as a grad assistant for a year or two to see if he loves it enough to do it long term. To be a successful coach u have to have it in u to do it without getting big time $.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32777 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:52 pm to
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I bet he could spot talent too. I just think he'd be the kind of guy that would represent the school well on the recruiting trail - AND - recruits would be in awe of him


Agree.
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