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re: Freeze shocked about Tunsil

Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by BCBAMA
Southeast Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
827 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:54 pm to
What a liar! Is everyone sure that he wasn't somehow affiliated with a prior Auburn coach staff?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:55 pm to
I don't know. Militant atheists are pretty good at spreading lies about religion and religious people. Like "if there was no religion we would never have any wars"
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:56 pm to
This article contains some more inflammation. I mean information.

LINK


quote:

“I know nothing,” Freeze said.




quote:

I’ll be very quick to come out and defend us when it’s something that we know the facts on. I don’t at this present time. I know our administration is working, and I’m told they made a lot of progress, that they’re collecting everything so they know exactly what the facts are before we run out and make any type of response.

“I’m trying to be patient, like I said in my opening statement. That’s difficult for me sometimes because you want to respond. But there’s great wisdom in being patient and making sure you get the facts, and we’re still in that process. Our administration will continue to work with all the parties to reach a conclusion as soon as possible, which we’re hopeful that’s coming quickly.”


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“I think (whether Tunsil’s comment impacts the NCAA process) depends on what the facts reveal,” Freeze said. “(Bjork and I) haven’t even discussed the next step. You get the facts first and then you’ll know a lot more after that what they are.


quote:

“But the facts are always more important than the speed or our public response, which is difficult for me sometimes because I want to respond.”


Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Freeze said Thursday on an SEC teleconference he is not involved in the "fact-finding process" and was "shocked like everyone else" when Tunsil acknowledged after being selected by the Miami Dolphins at the NFL draft that he accepted money.


the followup question should have been....

Coach Freeze if thats the case what does that say about your control over your staff and players
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25294 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:59 pm to
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However I do believe he was actively avoiding being aware of such actions.

From Websters Dictionary:
"Lack of Institutional Control - V "Actively avoiding being aware of such actions"
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:59 pm to
Him waiting for the facts to be investigated before making a statement is ignoring them? Sounds smart to me
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:02 pm to
I guess he learned to be patient and gather facts between the "we're all proud of Laremy for defending his mother" and now.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:04 pm to
I think we can conclude from this:

1. This wasn't some kind of emergency relief fund.

2. This isn't something that is in the NOA, or previously or an issue previously addressed with the NCAA.


Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:05 pm to
More like waiting for the Ole Miss version of the facts to be cooked up. I'm sure they had them until draft night and then had to go back to the drawing board. That 30 day extension turned out to be a blessing after all.
Posted by Kilgore Trout
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2014
664 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

I dont think that freeze was behind any money exchange. He probably has no idea who or what was involved in the last few recruiting years. However I do believe he was actively avoiding being aware of such actions. He definitely kept blinders on himself around anything extra curricular like personal recruiting issues.

Whaddya know? Someone else on this board understands how the system works.

Every HC knows he cannot recruit successfully if an effective shadow system is not in place, but he never wants to know who or how.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24093 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:


"I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"

"Your winnings, sir."

"Oh, thank you very much."


Correct use a Casablanca quote deserves plenty of up votes.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

quote:
Freeze would have known if it was but yet he was "shocked" when Tunsil said it.

Freeze would have known if it was but yet he was "shocked" that Tunsil said it.

FIFY


Why would it be a secret?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Whaddya know? Someone else on this board understands how the system works.

Every HC knows he cannot recruit successfully if an effective shadow system is not in place, but he never wants to know who or how




This is just sad.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

“I think (whether Tunsil’s comment impacts the NCAA process) depends on what the facts reveal,” Freeze said. “(Bjork and I) haven’t even discussed the next step. You get the facts first and then you’ll know a lot more after that what they are.



This makes it crystal clear that they had no idea about it before his tv admission. And that it was definetly not part of the previous investigation.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:22 pm to
How long could "fact gathering" take?
"hey Laremy, did u take $ from a coach?" If yes, " which coach?" And "For what reason?"

More like they need time to manipulate facts to cover their asses.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Whaddya know? Someone else on this board understands how the system works.

Every HC knows he cannot recruit successfully if an effective shadow system is not in place, but he never wants to know who or how.


The plausible deniability approach doesn't really work anymore. Pete Carroll "didn't know". Larry Brown "didn't know". Rick Pitino "didn't know".

quote:

The burden of responsibility for reporting violations has shifted and the NCAA is getting serious about holding coaches responsible for preventing, detecting and reporting NCAA rules violations. Beginning August 1, the NCAA board of directors will allow head coaches to be penalized individually for violations committed by their assistants, unless they can prove they took preventive steps to acknowledge potential violations.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:24 pm to
December 2015 Freeze stated - "And we all follow the plan I created for recruiting"

February 2016 Freeze stated - "We've had four consecutive top 15 classes. I know how we do things. I know how our staff does things."

February 2016 Freeze stated - "I am confident that how we do things inside this building are the right way."

Today Freeze states - "I know nothing."

This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted by We_R_The_Tide
Athens, Alabama
Member since Dec 2013
916 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:25 pm to
Like watching the defense of a criminal, when the lawyer waits until he has all the discovery.....then crafts his defense the best way he can around what they can prove, can't prove or don't know.

The problem may lie in the "hacker" and what they know........Ole Miss and Freeze are not sure what to say right now, when the "hacker" might release something that could counter it. So instead, it's all quite.........

Man this 30 for 30 is setting up to be good.....I mean Emmy good !!!
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13966 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:25 pm to
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but i thought the NCAA knew about all of this and that Ole Miss reported it. This shite is getting hilarious. Tunsil and Ole Miss need to get their stories straight or Ole Miss is going to get burned.


If OM is throwing buckets of cash at recruits, how in the world is Tunsil in need of $305?

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

f OM is throwing buckets of cash at recruits, how in the world is Tunsil in need of $305?


He spent it all on weed?
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