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Frank Martin is going to change OOC contracts to avoid situations like this year
Posted on 3/14/16 at 6:57 am
Posted on 3/14/16 at 6:57 am
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“In scheduling contracts, I’m going to have them include that if their team’s players transfer out, that voids the contract,” Martin said, pointing out that when he signed teams like Drexel, Memphis and St. John’s, their best players left afterward. “So we don’t have to pay $80,000 to get out of a contract.”
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Drexel's Damion Lee was on the leading scorers in the country in 2014-2015 then transferred to Louisville in March 2015.
St. John's lost I think 3 players, including one of the best shot blockers out there, after the 2014-2015 season (when they were a tourney team).
Memphis lost 3 players to transfers (1 of whom went to Alabama).
South Florida lost a transfer to Texas A&M.
Then of course Georgia Tech pulled out of an OOC game with us this season as well, which I think is why we played Francis Marion.
Frank Martin was a bit melty last night, understandably. It isn't like he went out and knowingly scheduled a bad OOC schedule.
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 6:59 am to GetCocky11
Losing at Mizzou did y'all in.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:17 am to WildcatMike
Better resume than Wichita St.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:18 am to GetCocky11
Unless he has some magic trick to avoid Georgia yall are screwed anyway.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:22 am to GetCocky11
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“In scheduling contracts, I’m going to have them include that if their team’s players transfer out, that voids the contract,” Martin said. “So we don’t have to pay $80,000 to get out of a contract.”
I'm sure all of the other teams will be willing to take on this additional risk for no compensation. Good luck with that, Frank.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:58 am to elposter
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I'm sure all of the other teams will be willing to take on this additional risk for no compensation. Good luck with that, Frank.
Not only will he have that problem, even if he were to magically make those contracts happen, he would be faced with having to fill schedule vacancies at the last minute. Odds are high he'd end up playing a bunch of rent-a-wins or going on the road to face better teams. Either way, he'd find himself in the same place.
Here's a better suggestion Frank. Don't lose 3 of your last 4 games.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:06 am to JustGetItRight
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Here's a better suggestion Frank. Don't lose 3 of your last 4 games.
Got to say this is probably the best bet. OOC schedule aside, how you look late in the season is important. We had a great top 50 record a month ago but can't hope and pray that stays the same as we saw this year. Teams are going to fall out of the top 50 and unfortunately it was us and most of the teams that we beat that were top 50 at the time.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:12 am to GetCocky11
I feel for him, but that's part of scheduling fringe tourney teams as your meal ticket
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:15 am to TheJones
Is 80k the going rate to get out of a bball contract? That doesn't seem too bad for an athletic dept. the size of South Carolina who could reschedule 5 a year for 400k. Making the tourney has to make the conference/team a ton of money
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:15 am to GetCocky11
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Drexel, Memphis and St. John’s
0 tournament teams there.
Man up and schedule P5 teams...and not just the garbage ones.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:17 am to 5thTiger
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0 tournament teams there.
Man up and schedule P5 teams...and not just the garbage ones.
That isn't his point.
Those teams would have been solid OOC teams before people transferred out of those programs. That is why he said what he said.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:22 am to GetCocky11
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That isn't his point.
Those teams would have been solid OOC teams before people transferred out of those programs. That is why he said what he said.
I mean, is he gonna look at the freshman and sophomores on other teams rosters and pick out a couple of guys to have written in the contract? Otherwise who's decision will it be if the contract becomes null and void?
It just sounds like sour grapes.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:24 am to GetCocky11
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It isn't like he went out and knowingly scheduled a bad OOC schedule.
Lolz. Yes it is. He scheduled Allen, Lipscomb, Western Carolina, USF, Drexel and Francis Marion.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:24 am to GetCocky11
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Those teams would have been solid OOC teams before people transferred out of those programs.
No they wouldn't have.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:29 am to GetCocky11
Obviously the SEC gets zero respect, so you have to schedule some sure tournament teams. You can't rely on those fringe teams to carry your non-conference strength of schedule.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 8:39 am
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:34 am to Smoke7024
Yeah apparently my way of thinking was incredibly off all season. It has become clear that it is in fact better to schedule tough OOC games and lose all of them than to have a weak OOC schedule and win all of them.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:59 am to GameCocky88
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Yeah apparently my way of thinking was incredibly off all season. It has become clear that it is in fact better to schedule tough OOC games and lose all of them than to have a weak OOC schedule and win all of them.
Or don't schedule like a pussy and beat some decent teams? Is that not an option?
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:05 am to JamalSanders
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It just sounds like sour grapes.
Why is that reference misused so often? What on earth does this situation have to do with "sour grapes"? The reference is to the fable in which the fox who can't reach the grapes concludes that they are probably sour anyway, so it's just as well he can't reach them. The moral is that people sometimes pretend not to want something they can't have so they don't feel bad about not having it. How is that in any way relevant to Martin's point in this situation? "Sour grapes" would be applicable if he said something to the effect that being in the NCAA tournament is no big deal, so it's OK that they're not.
If the reference applies to any SEC basketball coach/team right now, it's Jones/LSU, who "declined" to play in an NIT that they may well not have been invited to anyway.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:07 am to GetCocky11
USC's OOC teams had a record of 159-215 and that doesn't include Non Div I - Francis Marion. Only 4 OOC teams even had winning records. A few players transfer isn't changing that.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:21 am to GameCocky88
People keep referring to the last loss to UGA being the dagger, but I have to think that the loss on 03/03/16 at home to them was the one. Never should have lost that game, but we did, and ultimately that cost us a chance.
We had some other terrible losses, too, but that one stands out the most late in the season.
We had some other terrible losses, too, but that one stands out the most late in the season.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 9:41 am
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