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Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:13 pm
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:13 pm
with the creation of the secn, it looks like the revenue for each sec member will increase exponentially. with that said, what do yall believe the possibility will be that the other school will seek legislation to achieve some kind of revenue equity for state universities. there are actually some nimrods from Clemson saying this will be pursued by clemmers in the state house in Columbia. can this happen?
Posted by cbi8
Nashville
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:18 pm to
no
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2463 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

with the creation of the secn, it looks like the revenue for each sec member will increase exponentially. with that said, what do yall believe the possibility will be that the other school will seek legislation to achieve some kind of revenue equity for state universities. there are actually some nimrods from Clemson saying this will be pursued by clemmers in the state house in Columbia. can this happen?


Florida has always had a money advantage on FSU ,so this wouldn't change a thing. Legislation isn't going to do sh!t in our state.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18534 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:19 pm to
Won't happen with us. Georgia Tech may be the better school, but we control the state politics by far. They tried as hard as their little hearts could to keep us from getting an engineering program and they spent a fair amount of money to do that and the board of regents told them to shove it.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:23 pm to
Clemson has actually set a precedent for this.

When the Williams-Brice family bequeathed $20 million to SCAR in '70, Strom Thurmond interceded and had it split between the two schools.

SCAR fought it but was going to lose ... until Paul Dietzel stepped in and flew to Washington and met with Strom agreeing to let the division of the money take place if the money would be directed to the athletic department rather than the educational fund.

Strom had made the power move on Clemson's behalf using a tax law ... but he thought his people might lose the court battle on a technicality so he was willing to deal.

Strom worked his magic no taxes were paid on either half, and we used our half to build the West Upper Deck and then renamed the stadium Williams-Brice.

I'm not sure what the taterheads did with their half of the money they stole.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 7:28 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46381 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Won't happen with us. Georgia Tech may be the better school, but we control the state politics by far. They tried as hard as their little hearts could to keep us from getting an engineering program and they spent a fair amount of money to do that and the board of regents told them to shove it.


This. UGA literally runs this state.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19179 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:25 pm to
How the frick can you steal from a will? What a dirtbag.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:25 pm to
It's Clemson.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:27 pm to
Even if they pursue it, could they prevail? Clemson couldn't outvote USCe. Same for UK, UGA, and UF. The only team that should be worried about anything like that would be aTm with the other Big 12 Texas schools ganging up on them in the state legislature. But Texas still has more revenue and a larger endowment. Any revenue sharing statute would hurt Texas more than help and be a huge embarrassment to them.
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
3142 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:31 pm to
in todays climate of "fairness" in this country, im not so sure that this wouldn't see the light of day and considered in the legislature.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19179 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:32 pm to
Yes. The PUF (oil fund) is already split unequally between Texas and A&M. To revisit this would be foolish for Texas, and somehow the other universities are locked out of it. Don't know how.

SECN money is going to be great but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the other money at stake in Texas.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Any revenue sharing statute would hurt Texas more than help and be a huge embarrassment to them.



Which is why Ags and Teasips in the legislature band together to protect the PUF from the grubby sticky fingers of the red-headed step children schools of this state.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Clemson has actually set a precedent for this.

When the Williams-Brice family bequeathed $20 million to SCAR in '70, Strom Thurmond interceded and had it split between the two schools.

SCAR fought it but was going to lose ... until Paul Dietzel stepped in and flew to Washington and met with Strom agreeing to let the division of the money take place if the money would be directed to the athletic department rather than the educational fund.

Strom had made the power move on Clemson's behalf using a tax law ... but he thought his people might lose the court battle on a technicality so he was willing to deal.

Strom worked his magic no taxes were paid on either half, and we used our half to build the West Upper Deck and then renamed the stadium Williams-Brice.

I'm not sure what the taterheads did with their half of the money they stole


I literally can't believe this. It's something the sips or Baylor would do in a heartbeat. My mind is seriously blown, frick Clemson.


Also Strom Thurmond.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19179 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:36 pm to
It really disgusts me that this could happen.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

How the frick can you steal from a will? What a dirtbag.


Strom was a Clemson grad and a politician. It was a smart move for him at the time.

The money was not given in the will ... the wife donated it in the name of her husband who had played ball at Carolina. They were Sumter timber and furniture magnates and were worth about $150 million in the day ... and that was a lot of money in the late sixties and early seventies.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15735 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

Clemson has actually set a precedent for this.

When the Williams-Brice family bequeathed $20 million to SCAR in '70, Strom Thurmond interceded and had it split between the two schools.

SCAR fought it but was going to lose ... until Paul Dietzel stepped in and flew to Washington and met with Strom agreeing to let the division of the money take place if the money would be directed to the athletic department rather than the educational fund.

Strom had made the power move on Clemson's behalf using a tax law ... but he thought his people might lose the court battle on a technicality so he was willing to deal.

Strom worked his magic no taxes were paid on either half, and we used our half to build the West Upper Deck and then renamed the stadium Williams-Brice.

I'm not sure what the taterheads did with their half of the money they stole.


Well this is bullshite. What right did Clemson have to that money?
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
3142 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Strom Thurmond interceded

scrooster, the good new is there doesn't seem to be a power player like strom up there nowadays. he wielded power in this state not seen today.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37545 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:41 pm to
That's very true.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25844 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:46 pm to
To add to scrooster's point we've had a history of having to battle Clemson in the state house, this goes back as far as Clemson's founding and Ben Tillman.

eta: Point is that SC and Clemson has a long history of being more than just a gridiron rivalry
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 8:47 pm
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:50 pm to
Lulz at South Carolina fans getting butthurt Strom bent them over and stole their money.

Learn the legislative loopholes before you donate money and have it halved by your rival you idiots.
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