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re: For All the Talk of LSU's Built-in Recruiting Advantages...
Posted on 9/28/16 at 2:02 am to DannyB
Posted on 9/28/16 at 2:02 am to DannyB
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Tom Herman's recruiting advantage at Houston is even better.
1. Houston isn't in a power 5 conference...
2. Houston has to competes with UT/A&M/LSU/TTU/Baylor/TCU for recruits...
3. The city of Houston isn't quite the same size as the state of Louisiana and certainly doesn't produce what Louisiana produces each year.
4. New Orleans is pretty darn close to Baton Rouge... and they tend to have some pretty good players down there.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 5:50 am to DannyB
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The NCAA average for how far away a recruit is from the school they end up going to is close to 400 miles. For Tom Herman at Houston the average is 32 miles. Dude doesn't even have to leave the city or its suburbs to recruit. His entire team is from the Houston area.
He competes with every school in Texas, plus LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, and national programs like Michigan and Stanford.
Houston is a great talent pool, no doubt, but there's a LOT of competition for those guys.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:16 am to Old Money
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the state of Miami
hmm...ok whatever
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:43 am to FishFearMe
If you are talking about the extension of 249, that project has been talked about for decades and is still decades away.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:55 am to DannyB
But it's Houston, surely you are not comparing Houston the LSU when it comes to football programs.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:02 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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I completely agree with you and hope you are right. If Houston gets invited to the big 12, no way we get Herman. But the rest of the big 12 knows this and will fight tooth and nail to keep Houston from joining
True dat. But even if the population is 1/3 Mexican with 6m people that's 4M non-hispanic. And most of them ARE football fans.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:06 am to DannyB
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If Houston gets in the Big 12, I don't think anyone will be pulling too many recruits from Houston but the leftovers. In fact this is the reason why I see them not getting the invite. Houston will take that conference over within 2 years with not even really having to try on the recruiting trail and it scares the shite out of Texas, OU, and the rest of the league.
Nah, Houston is a commuter school and the city has way more longhorn, Aggies, Lsu interest than Cougars. Houston was in the SWC and played second fiddle to all other teams. OU and Texas aren't worried about Houston. Baylor, ok state, tiered teams might.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:45 am to WilliamTaylor21
The Houston metro area has a population almost 1.5x that of the entire State of Louisiana.
U of H did not out-recruit TAMU or tu in the old SWC, and they would not do so if they join the BDF. UH is a crappy commuter school. No prime athlete will choose it over a viable alternative.
U of H did not out-recruit TAMU or tu in the old SWC, and they would not do so if they join the BDF. UH is a crappy commuter school. No prime athlete will choose it over a viable alternative.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 7:46 am
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:46 am to WilliamTaylor21
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3. The city of Houston isn't quite the same size as the state of Louisiana and certainly doesn't produce what Louisiana produces each year.
It's almost the same size. Harris County has 4.337MM people. Louisiana has 4.65MM.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:50 am to DannyB
DannyBoy, what are you posting about Houston's coach in the SEC Rant? We accept Houston into the conference?
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:51 am to Cooter Davenport
But anyways, Houston is made up of Aggie, LSU, and Longhorn fans, with a smattering of Tech Tards thrown in, plus Sam Houston and SFA grads. I grew up there, I lived there as an adult, I'm telling you: nobody cares about UH. They have a 40,000 seat stadium they can't fill for a ranked team. In a metro area of 6,000,000 people. Even if they were in a major conference, they'd still be out-recruited by A&M and UTw and probably LSU too. That's how it was back in the SWC days when we were in the same conference AND split the city with Rice (which STILL has a bigger stadium than UH).
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:52 am to WilliamTaylor21
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The city of Houston isn't quite the same size as the state of Louisiana and certainly doesn't produce what Louisiana produces each year.
Metro is bigger
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:54 am to Cooter Davenport
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I grew up there, I lived there as an adult, I'm telling you: nobody cares about UH.
It's referred to as Coug High, correct? It's a commuter school. The fan support is little to none. That's one of the main reasons I'd hate to have them in the Big XII. Once Herman jumps ship, we'd be stuck with a commuter school that offers essentially nothing to the table.
I'd rather SMU or Rice than Houston.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:14 am to Grandioso
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It's referred to as Coug High, correct? It's a commuter school. The fan support is little to none.
Yes, correct. People in this state are Longhorn fans by default, unless they're grads of A&M or family of an Aggie (which given the size of the school is a lot of people, but nothing like the default t-shirt Longhorn fandom). Houston is different in that it has SO many Louisiana folks due to the O&G business, as well as proximity, and is similar to Louisiana in some ways (dirty, crime-ridden, muggy, swampy) so it also has a significant LSU fan population, not unlike the Okies and Arkies who inhabit DFW. But nobody is a UH fan. UH doesn't have a school culture or any loyalty because hardly anyone lives on campus or spends time there. It's a place you drive to from your house aka a commuter school. It is located in a hardcore ghetto with crack houses literally across the street. Rice is in a muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch better location.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 8:15 am
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:43 am to TexAgChill
Miles took whoever he wanted out of east Texas. I don't think that will be a problem for Herman at LSU
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:47 am to DannyB
Texas and Oklahoma do not want expansion. Therefore...there will be no expansion
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:54 am to DannyB
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Houston will take that conference over within 2 years with not even really having to try on the recruiting trail and it scares the shite out of Texas, OU, and the rest of the league
That's a little far fetched. It's not like they haven't shared a conference with several of the current Big 12 programs at a point in the past. The access to talent in the Houston metro was abailable then as well.
The difference now is the head coach. Herman looks to be a top notch coach. And possibly a scenario like Howard Schellenberger at Miami in the early 1980s. But again, it's all about the head coach. That's true anywhere, but especially so at schools that lack tradition, facilities, and large folllowings.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 8:56 am
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:56 am to Choctaw
Herman may end up at SC, Helton is an idiot, he will be fired. SC is the easier job, both SC and LSU have questionable leadership at the top though. I think Herman is from Southern California.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:03 am to 12thFairway
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Soccer is more popular in Houston than college football. Latino population doesn't watch or play college football.
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