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Football Study Hall: Which CFB coaches consistently overachieve or underachieve?

Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33906 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:47 pm
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Last offseason, I tinkered with a measure called second-order wins. It is basically my version of the Pythagorean Wins concept, where you look at a certain component (usually points or runs scored and allowed) and determine what a team's record probably should be as opposed to what it actually is. If you're losing a ton of close games but winning a bunch of blowouts, that's probably a sign that, on average, you would be faring better than you are.

My second-order wins concept looks at the single-game win expectancy figures you see in the 2015 Schedule & Results chart below. The idea behind win expectancy is simple: It takes the key stats from a given game (success rates, explosiveness, field position factors, and other factors that end up going into the S&P+ ratings), mashes them together, and says, "With these stats, you probably could have expected to win this game X percent of the time." Add those figures up over the course of a season, and you get a glimpse of what a given team probably could have expected its record to be.

Below is a look at everyone who has been a head coach at least four years since 2005 and what their average difference is per year -- actual wins vs. win expectation.

Biggest overachievers by Diff. Wins/Year

1. Ken Niumatalolo 1.08
2. Bill Snyder 0.94
2. Gus Malzahn 0.94
4. Dave Christensen 0.91
5. Mark Hudspeth 0.89
6. Matt Campbell 0.81
7. Pat Fitzgerald 0.80
8. David Bailiff 0.79
9. Rich Brooks 0.71
10. DeWayne Walker 0.68

Biggest Underachievers

1. Todd Dodge -1.28
2. Kevin Wilson -0.96
3. Steve Addazio -0.87
4. Tyrone Willingham -0.86
5. Phil Fulmer -0.62
5. Joe Glenn -0.62
7. Doug Martin -0.60
8. Hal Mumme -0.59
9. Dave Wannstedt -0.57
10. Houston Nutt -0.56



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Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
3841 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:54 pm to
Butch

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Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:57 pm to
Dude needs to scrap that model ASAP.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 6:09 pm to
Man, Gus would be #1 by a good margin if it wasn't for last years catastrophe
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 6:14 pm to
Yeah it's odd. Tells me that Auburn puts themselves in bad situations way more than they should. No class on any Malzahn coached team was ever any worse than eleventh in recruiting.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37550 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 6:25 pm to
LOL Gus over achieved?

List is shite
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 6:33 pm to
Taking a 3-9 (0-8) team that's unranked and picked near the bottom of the division to 13 seconds from a National Championship, the single greatest one year turnaround in NCAA history... With a DB at QB... Probably the most overachieving season ever.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 6:59 pm to
Yeah that was a magical year for Auburn. The first coach I thought about when I saw this thread was Gus. First coach I thought of for underachieving was Les lol.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:03 pm to
Average recruiting class ranking of that team was something like seventh. Chizik underachieved. That's why he got fired.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:12 pm to
Isn't having to pull out close games underachieving for some of these guys? But they are called overachievers for beating teams they should probably beat? Makes zero sense.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10305 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

Taking a 3-9 (0-8) team that's unranked and picked near the bottom of the division to 13 seconds from a National Championship, the single greatest one year turnaround in NCAA history


Yet his only loss prior to the NC game was to the proverbial underachiever. Go figure.
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