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Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:30 am
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:30 am
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But some schools are stepping up to fix that.
Many colleges are testing more than just the lowest academic performers. Louisiana State University at Baton Rouge screens about 60 of its 100 or so incoming athletes every year for problems with learning and attention. About half of those students receive more extensive mental-health testing, which, at LSU, can cost up to $1,800 per student. To help those and other players, the university employs seven learning specialists.
to the Purple and Gold.
But some schools are stepping up to fix that.
Many colleges are testing more than just the lowest academic performers. Louisiana State University at Baton Rouge screens about 60 of its 100 or so incoming athletes every year for problems with learning and attention. About half of those students receive more extensive mental-health testing, which, at LSU, can cost up to $1,800 per student. To help those and other players, the university employs seven learning specialists.
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:36 am to anc
I remember watching an Ole Miss game one year and they were proud of their kicker having a 3.2 GPA, the highest of the team...
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:38 am to anc
Wow, 60% of your athletes need to be tested?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:40 am to UASports23
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Wow, 60% of your athletes need to be tested?
I'd suspect that is the norm at SEC schools not named Vanderbilt.
It's not a secret that some of these players have no business being in college academically. There are two ways to handle it. The Oklahoma State/North Carolina way, or actually getting these kids the help they need.
And UNC is a "Public Ivy."
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 8:41 am
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:41 am to anc
Looks like LSU tries to help out everyone, even the window lickers. Y'all should do more charity work. Even if that means wasting your money on subpar standards and increasing the budget deficit.
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:41 am to UASports23
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Wow, 60% of your athletes need to be tested?
that's about 35% lower than their fanbase
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:42 am to anc
It's just shameful, really. Not picking on anyone in particular other than the education system and parents.
To keep it SEC related. Bama athletics has done pretty good lately.
To keep it SEC related. Bama athletics has done pretty good lately.
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Alabama led the nation in Academic All-American honors in 2014-15
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:42 am to AUTiger45
Alabama residents talking down to anyone about education is cringe worthy.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:44 am to RB10
Hiding behind a UGA logo I see.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:45 am to AUTiger45
So instead of taking the high road, and complimenting the university for raking a pro-active approach towards helping student athletes, shots were fired instead.
Why am I not surprised? Kudos to the OP on what should have been a feel good thread every one can get behind.
Why am I not surprised? Kudos to the OP on what should have been a feel good thread every one can get behind.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 8:53 am
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:47 am to Gary Busey
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iding behind a UGA logo I see.
I was told by the rant that LSU was closing, forever. I had to take action.
Alabama is 46th in HS and college education. Louisiana is 48th in HS and 47th in college. This is according to the last Census Bureau compilation released.
So, as I said, Alabama residents looking down their nose at anyone regarding education is cringe worthy.
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:52 am to anc
UGA has been doing this for a while. It's a great thing, for sure, as its allowing them a chance to actually succeed academically but it's a necessary endeavor given how underprepared a lot of these kids are coming into college; they need all the academic support they can get to make up for the years of attending a poor or failing school system or being passed on due to their athletic ability/teachers not having the time to devote to reteaching them. And that doesn't even take into account the stereotypes of playing football that mask a kid that has a legitimate learning disability or that had honest to god neurological damage from getting popped one too many times. Hell, not doing something like this for athletes attending a major university with the resources to do so is tantamount to negligence
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:54 am to anc
While athletes are the first to benefit from this, its a trend I expect to see growing within the general student body of Universities. If you want students to graduate, then you need to identify those with learning disabilities.
That is something that should be done well before high school, but with public education being craptacular its falling on colleges to do it instead.
That is something that should be done well before high school, but with public education being craptacular its falling on colleges to do it instead.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:56 am to tylerdurden24
Yea, people don't always understand the jump some of these kids are making from rural poor high schools in which they grew up with nobody at home teaching them how to study, just made it by enough to get into school and then are thrown into World History 101 with 250 kids and no direction other than the general tutoring sessions.
They have to learn how to study and learn. Great program.
They have to learn how to study and learn. Great program.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 8:57 am to Arksulli
I'm not sure about other states, but in GA every college has a disability resource center that can refer students to the main disability research center in Athens for testing. The problem is that the testing is really expensive so it's either has to come out of pocket for the student or they have to apply for a limited scholarship to help out. The wait list to get tested is also really long as they test for everything from ADHD to Dyslexia
Posted on 2/29/16 at 9:01 am to SummerOfGeorge
A big factor is the psychological issues these kids deal with. Many are first generation college students which presents its own host of issues and many would be trying to make money for their families in some capacity of they weren't playing football so to be sitting in a classroom while the family back home is sitting on hard times can really frick with head of a young adult whose brain hasn't even fully developed yet
Posted on 2/29/16 at 9:04 am to anc
Baseball players are dumber. At LSU there team GPA was always worse than the Football team
Posted on 2/29/16 at 9:06 am to tylerdurden24
These kids would never sniff a college classroom if it wasn't for football. It's great that the schools are teaching them to read but they have no business in college. The student - athlete label is such a farce.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 9:53 am to tylerdurden24
quote:Great post!
UGA has been doing this for a while. It's a great thing, for sure, as its allowing them a chance to actually succeed academically but it's a necessary endeavor given how underprepared a lot of these kids are coming into college; they need all the academic support they can get to make up for the years of attending a poor or failing school system or being passed on due to their athletic ability/teachers not having the time to devote to reteaching them. And that doesn't even take into account the stereotypes of playing football that mask a kid that has a legitimate learning disability or that had honest to god neurological damage from getting popped one too many times. Hell, not doing something like this for athletes attending a major university with the resources to do so is tantamount to negligence
Alabama has done this for years as well. Honestly, I'd think most major colleges would be doing the same thing. It's better to get these kids tested early and get them in study groups and tutoring sessions early in their college career. Identify the deficiencies that may exist and help them become successful students.
At UA there are designated "note takers" in every class. This person takes very detailed notes from the lectures and uploads them after class to a portal that is accessible to the students with learning disorders, hearing disabilities, etc. This resource is available to all students, not just the athletes.
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