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Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:10 pm
With all the talk of the LSU coaching search and "top 5" job and whatnot, it reminds me of something Finebaum said within a few days of Saban being hired at Bama.
His direct comment was " if he can win a title at LSU then he can win three at Bama". It's painful to admit that his point was proven, however...
What would lead a man to say such a thing? What is it about Bama, or what does he know, that we don't? IMO Bamas facilities aren't any better than LSU's, it's a push. Louisiana turns out more in state talent than Bama does. Maybe it's home bias talking, but if I were a college kid I'd prefer to live in Baton Rouge than Tuscaloosa. An in educational institution, I see no edge either way.
So what is it about Bama that would lead someone in his position to make such a bold claim? Bama was a shite show when Saban was hired. What is a rational basis for Finebaums comment?
His direct comment was " if he can win a title at LSU then he can win three at Bama". It's painful to admit that his point was proven, however...
What would lead a man to say such a thing? What is it about Bama, or what does he know, that we don't? IMO Bamas facilities aren't any better than LSU's, it's a push. Louisiana turns out more in state talent than Bama does. Maybe it's home bias talking, but if I were a college kid I'd prefer to live in Baton Rouge than Tuscaloosa. An in educational institution, I see no edge either way.
So what is it about Bama that would lead someone in his position to make such a bold claim? Bama was a shite show when Saban was hired. What is a rational basis for Finebaums comment?
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:14 pm to deuceiswild
Now this is a melt.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:15 pm to deuceiswild
Oh my
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:16 pm to deuceiswild
quote:The same thing which would lead Spurrier to say that anyone could win at Alabama.
What would lead a man to say such a thing?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:17 pm to deuceiswild
History is on his side in that statement. The statues outside the stadium, the Rose Bowl victories almost 100 years ago, Wallace Wade, Howell to Hutson, Johnny Mack Brown, Bear Bryant, the list is endless. It has always been this way save a bump in the road along the way, just the way it is. Not 1 SEC school has a winning record against Bama, not 1! Most are not even close. Just the way it is.
And please don't think I am trying to be arrogant, I really am not. Just trying to answer the question.
And please don't think I am trying to be arrogant, I really am not. Just trying to answer the question.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:17 pm to deuceiswild
Football calvinism. Some are just chosen.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:19 pm to deuceiswild
Great question!....but if you're not a Tide fan, it'd be almost impossible for you to understand...Hint: 90,000 people for a spring game. 
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:19 pm to deuceiswild
Bookmarked for greatness.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:19 pm to deuceiswild
quote:This is not really true or wildly overblown.
Louisiana turns out more in state talent than Bama does.
quote:Definitely home bias.
Maybe it's home bias talking, but if I were a college kid I'd prefer to live in Baton Rouge than Tuscaloosa.
quote:Bama is an iconic storied program that's been at the top of the college football world for most of a century. They've had maximum exposure in the minds of society for decades. Look at what you can show off to a recruit. Talk about college football accomplishments over time- wins, All-Americans, Hall of Famers, Championship trophies, draft picks and NFL players, you name it. Even in 2007 it was still one of the greatest college football kingdoms of all time. That shite is awesome. People want to be a part of it.
So what is it about Bama that would lead someone in his position to make such a bold claim?
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:22 pm to texag7
I could tell you why, but you wouldn't believe it unless you spent a football season in Alabama. It has a lot to do with culture, no pro sports, and the priority it is.(many argue it is way too high of a priority) Much like Idaho is for growing potatoes, Alabama seems to have a nice climate for championship programs.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:24 pm to cyde
Shows what a jackass Shiny Pants is. Anyone might can win at Bama, but not all can win to the "Bama Standard"!
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:24 pm to 4Ghost
Those are all fair points, and very true. However I think they become irrelevant when your program falls into a shithole and stays there for several years and you're basically starting over. Very few high school kids know this stuff, and even fewer care.
My point, more simply put... Is that resource wise, the two schools are fully equal IMO, unless there's something I'm missing. Saban is Saban, no matter where he is. So why is it logical to say "if he can win one at LSU he can win three at Bama?"
My point, more simply put... Is that resource wise, the two schools are fully equal IMO, unless there's something I'm missing. Saban is Saban, no matter where he is. So why is it logical to say "if he can win one at LSU he can win three at Bama?"
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:26 pm to deuceiswild
Not only does he know "the" button, he knows when and how to press it.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:27 pm to deuceiswild
It's the entire culture on Alabama. Everything in that state revolves around that football team. There is no other place that compares to that.
It's successful but, very unhealthy.
It's successful but, very unhealthy.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:29 pm to LSUwag
Except in the state with only one team. Touché
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:31 pm to deuceiswild
I understand what you are asking, it really is hard to convey. I dunno. We just demand and expect it. And I really do believe that it has something to do with it. You say it does not effect kids now, what happened 80 years ago, well, it does. It is all part of the package. My Lord, you got Alabama football players with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
It is way more than a dollar bill, that is for sure.
It is way more than a dollar bill, that is for sure.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:33 pm to deuceiswild
quote:Saban is recruiting much better at Bama than he did at LSU.
unless there's something I'm missing
Exposure. History. Recognizability. It goes a long way.
Think about it in terms of schools you have no dog in. Maybe Michigan and Wisconsin are technically equal today in those aspects. But Michigan is an iconic program, it's been great for a century, they have a stocked trophy case, they stir passion and debate throughout the country. Wisconsin may be better for five years but that's not gonna change their overall status in the minds of people. Michigan is still Michigan
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:38 pm to deuceiswild
Go to Tuscaloosa and visit the Bryant museum, then go over and look at all the National Championship trophies on display....then get back to me.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:40 pm to deuceiswild
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why is it logical to say "if he can win one at LSU he can win three at Bama?"
LSU's administration and politicians create a "glass ceiling" for the coaches there and prevent coaches from being able to reach for the stars; Bama, on the other hand, is a "blueblood" program and gives the coach a blank check to further build the program.
Think of it this way: LSU's baseball and track programs attract recruits in a way that Bama's can't for the same exact reason.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:42 pm to deuceiswild
Easy to understand:
Coach Saban's first press conference at LSU finihed and he started having second thoughts because of the questions being asked.
Coach Saban's press conference at Alabama you had grown men fighting to see who could be first in line to give him some head.
LSU is all in, but Alabama is all in + the unspeakables
Coach Saban's first press conference at LSU finihed and he started having second thoughts because of the questions being asked.
Coach Saban's press conference at Alabama you had grown men fighting to see who could be first in line to give him some head.
LSU is all in, but Alabama is all in + the unspeakables
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