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re: ESPN college expert says SEC should ditch divisions...

Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:00 pm to
Dumb idea.

I really wish we didn't have to constantly change everything
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

The conf is perfect the way it is...


Nope. After 4 years, A&M plays UT for the first time this year. A&M won't play at Georgia until 2019, at home in 2024. A&M gets Kentucky in 2018 and plays there in 2025. That's ridiculous. LSU is in the same boat, of course, but you probably don't realize how screwed up this is because LSU has played all of the east teams many times over the years.

The roommate switch is a perfect solution, and nobody can tell me that if the SEC wanted to do this and keep a championship game that the NCAA wouldn't approve it.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:55 pm to
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TouchdownTony
ESPN college expert says SEC should ditch divisions...
I have ZERO problems with the SECCG going away. It has had several 2,3 conference loss teams in it and is predictable as the sun rising. Go away and play round robin. If u are good enough you'll survive the schedule.


Then please tell me how you're going to play a round robin schedule unless you make ALL conferences no more than 10-13 members (depending on if you want any non-conf. games).

So, we now have the P6 conferences?
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 7:25 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

MSU5
ESPN college expert says SEC should ditch divisions...
If you got rid of divisions would you still play the same number of conference games? I have no idea how this stuff works



All depends on how things are set up.

If you have 3 perm./8 game conf. schedule, you could go through the entire conf. H/A in 4 years.
4 perm./8 conf. = 5 yrs. for H/A with 2 repeat
5 perm./8 conf. = 6 yrs. for H/A with 2 repeat
3 perm./9 conf. = 4 yrs. for H/A with 4 repeat
4 perm./9 conf. = 4 yrs. for H/A with 2 repeat
5 perm./9 conf. = 4 yrs. for H/A


BUT, you've got to figure out how to compare teams to see whom is better than whom since nobody shares a lot of teams on their schedule.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:23 pm to
True or go to 16 teams with 4 pods & you can do the entire conference H/A in 6 yrs. (see everybody in 3).

This will also "shake up" on who gets to go to the SECCG if you pair the pods accordingly:

year 1 - Pods A/B winner vrs. Pods C/D winner
year 2 - Pods A/C winner vrs. Pods B/D winner
year 3 - Pods A/D winner vrs. Pods B/C winner

This eliminates the whining about the same teams always going to the title game because (depending on the pods) you have a chance to knock those teams out @ least every 3rd year (if not sooner).
Posted by Porker Face
Midnight
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:28 pm to
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ESPN college expert


What exactly is this. Did he major in Power 5 conferences or something?

Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:31 pm to
Didn't the ACC reneg. on their attempt at doing this?
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:33 pm to
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ESPN college expert


Does not exist
Posted by Nolefan37
Member since May 2016
72 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:38 pm to
I guess you could have 8-9 conference games without divisions and the 2 teams with the best conference records play for the league title. But I doubt that's allowed under NCAA bylaws.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5211 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:49 pm to
So I tried to work out 3 permanents and then you would have 5-6 rotating.

Alabama- AU/UT/MSU
Arkansas-LSU/TAMU/MSU
Auburn-UGA/UA/UF
Florida-UGA/UT/AU
Georgia-AU/UF/USC
Kentucky-USC/VU/MIZZ
LSU-ARK/OM/TAMU
Miss St-OM/UA/ARK
Missouri-TAMU/USC/UK
Ole Miss-MSU/LSU/VU
So Carolina-MIZZ/UK/UGA
Tennessee-UA/UF/VU
Texas AM-ARK/MIZZ/LSU
Vanderbilt-UT/UK/OM
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:20 pm to
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3rddownonthe8
ESPN college expert says SEC should ditch divisions...
So I tried to work out 3 permanents and then you would have 5-6 rotating.



Out of the 91 comparisons between teams on your list, here's what it sorted out to be:

0 teams shared = 55 (60.44%)
1 team shared = 32 (35.16%)
2 teams shared = 4 (4.4%)

Hince why divisions need to stay.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2071 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

So I tried to work out 3 permanents and then you would have 5-6 rotating.


I like 4 perms so Bama keeps LSU on the schedule.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19050 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:48 pm to
No such a thing as an ESPN "expert".
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22914 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 3:42 pm to
frick that!
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36282 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

The conf is perfect the way it is we are the leader in CFB no reason to change


SEC has been ahead of the curve recently. Innovation is key.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5211 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 6:12 pm to
So 4 & 4

Alabama- AU/UT/MSU/LSU

Arkansas-LSU/TAMU/MSU/MIZZ

Auburn-UGA/UA/UF/OM

Florida-UGA/UT/AU/USC

Georgia-AU/UF/USC/VU

Kentucky-USC/VU/MIZZ/UK

LSU-ARK/OM/TAMU/UA

Miss St-OM/UA/ARK/TAMU

Missouri-TAMU/USC/UK/ARK

Ole Miss-MSU/LSU/VU/AU

So Carolina-MIZZ/UK/UGA/UF

Tennessee-UA/UF/VU/UK

Texas AM-ARK/MIZZ/LSU/MSU

Vanderbilt-UT/UK/OM/UGA

It's actually pretty balanced and hits all the traditional rivalries
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2071 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:25 pm to
Agreed. The best two teams go to Atlanta. Period.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

So I tried to work out 3 permanents and then you would have 5-6 rotating.


quote:

LSU-ARK/OM/TAMU


Yes please.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65786 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:44 pm to
I would rather re-align

Mizz in the west and Au in the east

it only makes sense geography east and west

but this won't happen
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 2:46 pm
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