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Does Kevin Sumlin and aTm share any responsibility for Manziel's problems?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:14 pm
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If Johnny Manziel doesn't receive help, he won't make it to his next birthday, his father told The Dallas Morning News on Friday.
Manziel's father, Paul, told the newspaper that the Cleveland Browns quarterback has refused to enter area rehab facilities twice in the past week. He said the family tried to get Manziel, 23, to enter a local addiction facility on Saturday, but Manziel refused to stay. Paul Manziel said he tried to have his son admitted to a psychiatric and chemical dependency hospital on Tuesday, but Manziel was allowed to leave, despite his father telling officers that he believed Manziel was suicidal.
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Ultimately Johnny is responsible for Johnny. But the place that made him an entitled, drug and alcohol addicted, attention whore is Texas A&M. He repeatedly did things that elevated himself and his personal life above the team. And rather than Sumlin teaching him a lesson and benching him, Sumlin and aTm seemed to fuel him even more. They promoted the "Johnny Football" persona as the face of the "new" aTm program and taught him that no matter what he did, Sumlin and aTm were still going to put him on the football field. Sumlin has been the biggest enabler in his life instead of the tough father figure we expect a coach of 18-22 year olds to be.
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:15 pm to Monticello
RIP to both entities.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:15 pm to Monticello
Another sufferer of Affluenza.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:15 pm to Monticello
all a&m, all the time
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:15 pm to Monticello
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Does Kevin Sumlin and aTm share any responsibility for Manziel's problems?
No.
In hindsight, it's actually incredible that they kept him from completely self-destructing in the scant time he was on campus.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:15 pm to Monticello
Uh, no.
We gave him a chance as a three star QB to start on a SEC team and then supported him with the perfect media campaign on his way to a Heisman.
His problems are his problems.
We gave him a chance as a three star QB to start on a SEC team and then supported him with the perfect media campaign on his way to a Heisman.
His problems are his problems.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:15 pm to Monticello
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has refused to enter area rehab facilities twice
No, they don't.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:15 pm to Monticello
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Does Kevin Sumlin and aTm share any responsibility for Manziel's problems?
Sigh...
We're talking about a 23 year old adult. No person, school, or any other entity is responsible for his actions other than himself. Period.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:20 pm to Monticello
Umm no.
He's a grown man fricking his own life up. If anyone is to blame it's himself and his parents for poorly raising him
He's a grown man fricking his own life up. If anyone is to blame it's himself and his parents for poorly raising him
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:22 pm to Monticello
Does anyone else feel like this whole Johnny thing is ridiculous and blown way out of proportion?
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:23 pm to WestCoastAg
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all a&m, all the time
It's getting old.
That kid has had those problems long before he hit CS.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:24 pm to nofear67
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It's getting old.
Don't worry we will retire that saying eventually.
Sometime next offseason.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:25 pm to Patton
Not really.....seems like the guy has real issues...
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:25 pm to Monticello
quote:"Any" is pretty broad. Without knowing how he was coached, disciplined, held accountable or enabled behind closed doors, I don't think anyone can answer this question. Clearly Johnny is ultimately responsible for himself, as you said, and his parents appear substantially responsible as well.
any responsibility
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:29 pm to 14&Counting
I just keep getting the feeling that he's just a dumb rich 23 year old who has no one to tell him "that's a bad idea". Serious issues? I don't know. The quote from his dad strikes me more as him trying to get attention. Seems like an exaggeration
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:32 pm to Monticello
Responsible? No.
Could they have done anything differently which may have helped? Probably.
Could they have done anything differently which may have helped? Probably.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:34 pm to Monticello
Is UF responsible for what Aaron Hernandez did?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:37 pm to Monticello
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Ultimately Johnny is responsible for Johnny. But the place that made him an entitled, drug and alcohol addicted, attention whore is Texas A&M.
Unless you have known Johnny for his entire life, how can you possibly make a claim like this?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:37 pm to Patton
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I just keep getting the feeling that he's just a dumb rich 23 year old who has no one to tell him "that's a bad idea". Serious issues? I don't know. The quote from his dad strikes me more as him trying to get attention. Seems like an exaggeration
His dad is part of the problem. That kid was allowed to do whatever he wanted way before he got to the NFL and even before A&M. There were all kind of stories of Manziel acting like a little bitch with grandpa's money.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:38 pm to Houston Summit
I mean, it's not like we have another high-profile Aggie football alum playing for a Super Bowl right now 
Just like last year.
And the year before that.
Where were OP's threads praising TAMU's role in molding those young men, I wonder?
Just like last year.
And the year before that.
Where were OP's threads praising TAMU's role in molding those young men, I wonder?
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