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Does anyone like the old bowl tie-ins from pre 1998?
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:03 am
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:03 am
I personally like the old bowl tie-ins from pre 1998. I think it was good for college football. Some of the arguments of "was this team better" still go on today.
No one will be talking about a playoff game 10 years from now but they will still be talking about the LSU/USC split national champion.
In short old bowl tie-ins>BCS>playoff
Let's try not to make college football the NFL. That's what's so great about it.
No one will be talking about a playoff game 10 years from now but they will still be talking about the LSU/USC split national champion.
In short old bowl tie-ins>BCS>playoff
Let's try not to make college football the NFL. That's what's so great about it.
This post was edited on 12/26/16 at 9:04 am
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Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:17 am to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:18 am to boogiewoogie1978
Yes. Was better when all major bowls were on NYD and bowls picked for matchups and based on conference affiliation only. As many as 3-4 games that day were important for NC discussion
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:19 am to boogiewoogie1978
So basically never solving an argument is what you like?
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:21 am to bbeck
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So basically never solving an argument is what you like?
Isn't this board based on that?
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:23 am to bbeck
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So basically never solving an argument is what you like?
This is the same argument old baseball guys used when opposing instant replay for years.
"I'd rather argue with no chance of the result actually changing"
It's moronic.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:23 am to bbeck
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So basically never solving an argument is what you like?
I like watching meaningful football on NYD.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:24 am to boogiewoogie1978
I hate bowl tie-ins.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:25 am to BranchDawg
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quote: So basically never solving an argument is what you like? This is the same argument old baseball guys used when opposing instant replay for years. "I'd rather argue with no chance of the result actually changing" It's moronic.
It's really not given how we decide the 4 teams in the playoff now. There is still ambiguity. If it was a real playoff like NFL maybe that would be different.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:35 am to boogiewoogie1978
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No one will be talking about a playoff game 10 years from now
Which is exactly why we needed a playoff.
Nothing bothers me more than sports-geeks who want to "debate" about what team was better in any given year.
Settle it on the field.
quote:Let them Talk. The BCS was created to eliminate the controversy of who was crowned NC, and LSU has the 2003 Crystal Ball Trophy in the case along with being #1 the Coaches Poll. USC and morons like you can talk about their AP Title voted on by the journalists (we all know how smart they are-rolls eyes) in the media who were no longer relevant in determining who would be crowned NC.
but they will still be talking about the LSU/USC split national champion.
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Let's try not to make college football the NFL. That's what's so great about it.
Actually, that's what so many of us hated about CFB and why the BCS and the playoff was created.
I love the Final Four and the College World Series because the champion has to win the NC on the court/field.
The CFB playoff is not perfect and I think they need to expand it somehow. But I do not miss the Mythical NC aspect of yesteryear.
This post was edited on 12/26/16 at 9:46 am
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:38 am to Dawgfanman
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It's really not given how we decide the 4 teams in the playoff now.
I'd rather argue over #4 than #2.
And ... following that line of thinking, I'd rather argue over #8 than #4.
Etc.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:39 am to boogiewoogie1978
Major college football is the only level of the game wherein the champion has been declared rather than proven on the field. The present 4-team playoff is a bit better but there are still teams being left out that could win it all. Until the number of teams in the playoff gets to an ideal number of 16, the championship will remain contentious, in my opinion.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:40 am to boogiewoogie1978
I really hate playoffs, but they are necessary when you have 120+ teams.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:47 am to boogiewoogie1978
Some things I miss about the old system, yes.
I was really hoping the 4 team playoff teams could be decided AFTER all the bowls played out. To hell with this politicized "committee!!!"
Example:
Alabama plays Okla in Sugar
Wash plays Penn St in Rose
Etc., etc.
Once all games have been played, then rank the 4 best with the BCS formula, not some quacks with an axe to grind making it a beauty pageant
I still think Michigan is one of the 4 best and could prove it by stomping FSU in my system
I was really hoping the 4 team playoff teams could be decided AFTER all the bowls played out. To hell with this politicized "committee!!!"
Example:
Alabama plays Okla in Sugar
Wash plays Penn St in Rose
Etc., etc.
Once all games have been played, then rank the 4 best with the BCS formula, not some quacks with an axe to grind making it a beauty pageant
I still think Michigan is one of the 4 best and could prove it by stomping FSU in my system
This post was edited on 12/26/16 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:52 am to pvilleguru
Once upon a time a bowl game was a "reward" for the players. They would spend a week in a city to enjoy their surroundings, have fun and be treated royally. The game was just that.
Coach Bryant would tell the press he would let his seniors vote on which bowl to attend.
Coach Bryant would tell the press he would let his seniors vote on which bowl to attend.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:54 am to OlGrandad
Exactly but now we have places like Montgomery as bowl destinations. What teams want to go to Montgomery or Shreveport?
Posted on 12/26/16 at 10:05 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Does anyone like the old bowl tie-ins from pre 1998?
For nostalgia sake? Sure. I think any of us old guys are going to like it because of the good things that came with it back in the day: the discussions. But ... the bad outweighed the good. I may be an old dude but I actually like this system we have now (4-team playoff). I just wish the BCS computers picked the top 4. I guess we don't always get what we want. But, honestly, the current way is better than pre-1998 imvho.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 10:07 am to Hussss
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Exactly but now we have places like Montgomery as bowl destinations. What teams want to go to Montgomery or Shreveport?
Ugh.
I only like passing thru Montgomery on the way to Mobile.
Shreveport is only good for flying over from Colorado to Atlanta.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 10:08 am to Kentucker
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Until the number of teams in the playoff gets to an ideal number of 16
Which will turn college into semipro. No thanks.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 10:41 am to boogiewoogie1978
Some better mix needs to be found for sure. More playoff teams isn't the right direction. The idea of choosing the final championship game after the bowls are played seems like something that will add some meaning to bowl games. Bringing back the computers, and SOS. Personally I thought the BCS lost its meaning when SOS was stripped.
Less games is key. We are seeing the drawbacks now of to many games, and bowls lossing their luster. Fans holding out of traveling to go to the final game, players not wanting to play in pointless bowls, etc. More games open up a chance for key players getting hurt. Watson gets hurt in a playoff game that Clemson still wins, and they lose in the final...no "what ifs?" gonna come out of that??
Lots of tweaking left, but more games is the direction due to ESPN and TV money. That's the problem here
Less games is key. We are seeing the drawbacks now of to many games, and bowls lossing their luster. Fans holding out of traveling to go to the final game, players not wanting to play in pointless bowls, etc. More games open up a chance for key players getting hurt. Watson gets hurt in a playoff game that Clemson still wins, and they lose in the final...no "what ifs?" gonna come out of that??
Lots of tweaking left, but more games is the direction due to ESPN and TV money. That's the problem here
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